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> * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable Sorry, you can't have IP67 water resistance with that 3.5mm headphone jack. Edit: a lot of folks proved me wr

by devy 6y ago

> * Lack of headphone jack is still unacceptable Sorry, you can't have IP67 water resistance with that 3.5mm headphone jack. Edit: a lot of folks proved me wrong. I feel that I need to clarify: Apple's design goal is to make it thiner, more integrated, less components more battery space and unified input/output interface, all that combined with water resistance, is not practical. All the 3.5mm examples I am seeing doesn't attempt to make it thin and light albeit water resistant.

PHGamer 6y ago
LOL the samsung s10 says otherwise.
camgunz 6y ago
My Galaxy S8 has IP68 water resistance and a 3.5mm jack. I guess if you need the extra .5 meters that's non-negotiable, but still feels like a niche use case.
ravoori 6y ago
My LG v35 has a 3.5 mm headphone jack and is ip68 certified
detaro 6y ago
Motorola Moto x4 has both.
kawsper 6y ago
IP67 Rated Audio Jacks do exist: https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/ip-rated-audio-jacks https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/ip-rated-...
dade_ 6y ago
Sony Xperia Compact series
urineaut 6y ago
That's not true, although I assume it may be harder to water-proof devices with each possible opening in the chassis. There are some water-resistant phones with a headphone jack and an IP68 rating even. The LG V30 for example is a beast. Semi-regular usage on rainy days works without any issues. Even using it as a flashlight it survived 30min of pouring rain. I had to wait for the USB-C port to dry up to charge it after getting home, but it still survived without any damage whatsoever. Other phones that are both water-resistant and have a jack [1]: * Pixel 3a * Galaxy S10 * Huawei P30 * and a lot more If I remember correctly, Apple tried to justify its removal due to its size and water-resistance. I wonder when (not if) Apple will remove the power plug due to "water-resistance" and insist on using Qi charging (even though it has worse efficiency[2]) and cloud services instead of transferring data via cable. [1]: https://www.androidauthority.com/phones-with-headphone-jack-825984/ https://www.androidauthority.com/phones-with-headphone-jack-... [2]: https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/data/downloadables/1/5/2/7/john-perzow-efficiency-of-wireless-charging.pdf https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/data/downloadables/1...
- blt 6y ago
  The pixel 3a is not water resistant, as far as I know.
  - urineaut 6y ago
    You are right. Sorry, I've been a little bit too quick typing this comment. Unfortunately, it seems I cannot edit the comment anymore.
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by devy 6y ago

PHGamer 6y ago

LOL the samsung s10 says otherwise.

camgunz 6y ago

My Galaxy S8 has IP68 water resistance and a 3.5mm jack. I guess if you need the extra .5 meters that's non-negotiable, but still feels like a niche use case.

ravoori 6y ago

My LG v35 has a 3.5 mm headphone jack and is ip68 certified

detaro 6y ago

Motorola Moto x4 has both.

kawsper 6y ago

IP67 Rated Audio Jacks do exist: https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/ip-rated-audio-jacks https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/c/cui/ip-rated-...

dade_ 6y ago

Sony Xperia Compact series

urineaut 6y ago

That's not true, although I assume it may be harder to water-proof devices with each possible opening in the chassis. There are some water-resistant phones with a headphone jack and an IP68 rating even. The LG V30 for example is a beast. Semi-regular usage on rainy days works without any issues. Even using it as a flashlight it survived 30min of pouring rain. I had to wait for the USB-C port to dry up to charge it after getting home, but it still survived without any damage whatsoever. Other phones that are both water-resistant and have a jack [1]: * Pixel 3a * Galaxy S10 * Huawei P30 * and a lot more If I remember correctly, Apple tried to justify its removal due to its size and water-resistance. I wonder when (not if) Apple will remove the power plug due to "water-resistance" and insist on using Qi charging (even though it has worse efficiency[2]) and cloud services instead of transferring data via cable. [1]: https://www.androidauthority.com/phones-with-headphone-jack-825984/ https://www.androidauthority.com/phones-with-headphone-jack-... [2]: https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/data/downloadables/1/5/2/7/john-perzow-efficiency-of-wireless-charging.pdf https://www.wirelesspowerconsortium.com/data/downloadables/1...

blt 6y ago
The pixel 3a is not water resistant, as far as I know.
- urineaut 6y ago
  You are right. Sorry, I've been a little bit too quick typing this comment. Unfortunately, it seems I cannot edit the comment anymore.

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