4 ms·

> Presumably, this also means you have to have Hyper-V enabled, crippling all other VM software How does hyper-V cripple other VM software? I just had to enab

by cgb223 7y ago

> Presumably, this also means you have to have Hyper-V enabled, crippling all other VM software How does hyper-V cripple other VM software? I just had to enable it to use a prebuilt VM I need, now I’m a little worried

mehrdadn 7y ago
Last time I checked (months ago) VirtualBox just couldn't run under Hyper-V. If you Google around you'll see lots of threads, e.g. https://superuser.com/q/1208850 https://superuser.com/q/1208850 Apparently they claim that as of February 19, 2020, they've "Restored the ability to run VMs through Hyper-V, at the expense of performance". https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-6.1 https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-6.1
- lukevp 7y ago
  I’m using hyper-v and virtualbox together, seems to be fine performance-wise. Only reason we’re using vbox is that we already have vagrant scripts set up for it and hyper-v didn’t seem to work as well as a target for vagrant.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  Restored? That's a weird line. I don't think it ever lost it since the feature was added in 6.0 (released December 18 2018), it was just annoying to activate.
  - mehrdadn 7y ago
    I couldn't get it work, so it was broken as I saw it... not sure who could actually get it to work then.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      You had to manually set "VBoxInternal/NEM/UseRing0Runloop" to 0. The default settings were broken, but the actual functionality was fine. Though I remember it working at some point before that, too...
      - mehrdadn 7y ago
        Wow I see. I'm tempted to try it now and see if it works...
- WorldMaker 7y ago
  VirtualBox seems a victim of Oracle's usual apathy as a project custodian. Nearly every other VM vendor has added or accepted (Microsoft employees were even directly involved in PRs to qemu and other) performance improvements on Hyper-V. It's almost like Oracle is trying to upsell VM servers at the expense of the day-to-day operations of the once well regarded open source project they maintain?~
sdegutis 7y ago
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-faq https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-faq https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-ux-changes https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-ux-changes
- afraca 7y ago
  > WSL 2 will be available on all SKUs where WSL is currently available, including Windows 10 Home. > The newest version of WSL uses Hyper-V architecture to enable its virtualization. This architecture will be available in the 'Virtual Machine Platform' optional component. This optional component will be available on all SKUs. I don't really grok this, does this mean Hyper-V will be available on Windows 10 Home? That's the only reason I am considering buying a pro license.
  - MikusR 7y ago
    Home will have only the parts necessary to run wsl2.

by cgb223 7y ago

mehrdadn 7y ago

Last time I checked (months ago) VirtualBox just couldn't run under Hyper-V. If you Google around you'll see lots of threads, e.g. https://superuser.com/q/1208850 https://superuser.com/q/1208850 Apparently they claim that as of February 19, 2020, they've "Restored the ability to run VMs through Hyper-V, at the expense of performance". https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-6.1 https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Changelog-6.1

lukevp 7y ago
I’m using hyper-v and virtualbox together, seems to be fine performance-wise. Only reason we’re using vbox is that we already have vagrant scripts set up for it and hyper-v didn’t seem to work as well as a target for vagrant.
deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
Dylan16807 7y ago
Restored? That's a weird line. I don't think it ever lost it since the feature was added in 6.0 (released December 18 2018), it was just annoying to activate.
- mehrdadn 7y ago
  I couldn't get it work, so it was broken as I saw it... not sure who could actually get it to work then.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    You had to manually set "VBoxInternal/NEM/UseRing0Runloop" to 0. The default settings were broken, but the actual functionality was fine. Though I remember it working at some point before that, too...
    - mehrdadn 7y ago
      Wow I see. I'm tempted to try it now and see if it works...
WorldMaker 7y ago
VirtualBox seems a victim of Oracle's usual apathy as a project custodian. Nearly every other VM vendor has added or accepted (Microsoft employees were even directly involved in PRs to qemu and other) performance improvements on Hyper-V. It's almost like Oracle is trying to upsell VM servers at the expense of the day-to-day operations of the once well regarded open source project they maintain?~

sdegutis 7y ago

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-faq https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-faq https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-ux-changes https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/wsl2-ux-changes

afraca 7y ago
> WSL 2 will be available on all SKUs where WSL is currently available, including Windows 10 Home. > The newest version of WSL uses Hyper-V architecture to enable its virtualization. This architecture will be available in the 'Virtual Machine Platform' optional component. This optional component will be available on all SKUs. I don't really grok this, does this mean Hyper-V will be available on Windows 10 Home? That's the only reason I am considering buying a pro license.
- MikusR 7y ago
  Home will have only the parts necessary to run wsl2.