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In all sincerity, New York wasn’t Wuhan either. If I were any any other state, I’d absolutely limit travel from NY and screen them.
by runawaybottle 7y ago
In all sincerity, New York wasn’t Wuhan either. If I were any any other state, I’d absolutely limit travel from NY and screen them.
- joe_the_user 7y agoReally? New York current has quite a few times the casualties of all of China (10834 vs 3341) with a small population than Wuhan and the casualties haven't stopped there. New York by itself has one of the high casualty levels in the world by any measure.
- lhopki01 7y agoHigher reported casualty rate.
- webninja 7y agoNew York started their business closures and stay at home orders 2 weeks after Seattle and California closed down. That’s why they ended up with so many more cases and deaths than the former two.
- vkou 7y agoNew York on lockdown is also busier then Seattle on a regular day. Have you seen any of the photos of the packed subway trains, a week and a half into the lockdown? Seattle doesn't see that sort of thing even in rush hour. Likewise, if you live in a highrise in New York, you're going to be taking the elevator to go get groceries. Usually with other people...
- djrogers 7y agoAny comparison using the officially reported death toll in Wuhan at face value is of no value whatsoever.
- dsl 7y agoHave you been on site in Wuhan? Collected any data? Where can we get a copy?
- AnimalMuppet 7y agoNo, we don't have solid data on Wuhan. Neither does anyone else outside of China (or so we strongly suspect). The question isn't whether someone has better data than you. The point is that you don't have believable data for Wuhan.
- munk-a 7y agoIt has value - it should just be treated very skeptically. And, honestly, the US numbers are highly inaccurate as well due to a simply lack of an ability to test (instead of a lack of will to publish the real numbers).
- mlindner 7y agoThe casualty numbers are quite accurate. The US records every cause of death.
- raphlinus 7y agohttps://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1250170016504430595 https://twitter.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1250170016504430595 @MarkLevineNYC BREAKING: NYC publishes, for first time, data on fatalities that includes "probable" cases (those without a confirmed test result). It has pushed the death toll in NYC up by 57%. Was 6,589 before this adjustment. Now stands at 10,367. This is a painful but necessary accounting.
- gizmo686 7y agoThe US cannot record data it doesn't have. Covid is only the cause of death if the deceased had Covid; and we cannot know that unless we can test them. In aggragate, we can sidestep this issue by looking at excess death, but that is non-trivial (particuarly because the behavioural changes mean that we would expect other causes of death to differ in unknown ways). At the end of this, I would expect to get fairly accurate estimates for how many died to Covid, but while we are in the middle of it, the numbers are very murky.
- mlindner 7y agoThe key thing is "reported" casualties. It's well known that actual casualties in China were MUCH higher than actually reported.
- runawaybottle 7y agoI suppose I worded it wrong. What I meant was, you might not be New York now, but you could be. New York didn’t think they’d top Wuhan.