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Has the rise of AMD led to a shift in talent going their way as well? Not sure how the loyalty dynamics are in the chip engineering industry.

mc32 7y ago
If I were an EE I’d wait it out, at least for the CPU biz. AMD has been feat or famine, so a bit too unpredictable, though of late they have been crushing it.
- Retric 7y ago
  Feast or famine works really well if you’re selling stock options as soon as they vest. Well assuming the cycle time is fast enough and you’re staying through multiple cycles. It’s like x every year vs cycling between 0 and 4x.
mchristen 7y ago
Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) to answer your question about loyalty. He's had his hand in all kinds of chips you use.
- api 7y ago
  I don't think him jumping back and forth is a bad thing. I'd prefer if Intel and AMD (and others) were at each others throats constantly. We're the winners in that scenario, with more and faster and cheaper chips to choose from.
starpilot 7y ago
AMD/Intel make incredible products, but there's mostly bitching about workplace environment at those places on Blind.
code_biologist 7y ago
It already sounds like the environment in Intel isn't great, and a lot of the staff dynamics are very driven by cost-cutting. Great video on youtube posted in the last week with a bunch of leaks from Intel employees: https://youtu.be/agxSclh27uo https://youtu.be/agxSclh27uo
- AtlasBarfed 7y ago
  Pretty standard fare for monopoly/cartel in all segments in America. Pump stock, hit options, golden parachute. I will say the last time AMD had a brief lead on Intel with Athlon, they laid on their laurels and started milking customers in record time. I think that was Hector Ruiz. The last time, it was pretty clear from the mobile processors that the core engineering talent was somewhere in the company, I think the Core processor was from an Israeli team rather than the one pushing out the high-frequency pipeline-stalls-be-damned stuff. But I get the feeling with the stunning, STUNNING process lead collapse that the engineering talent is fundamentally gone. Intel had a two or three year lead it was thought at one point.
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mc32 7y ago

If I were an EE I’d wait it out, at least for the CPU biz. AMD has been feat or famine, so a bit too unpredictable, though of late they have been crushing it.

Retric 7y ago
Feast or famine works really well if you’re selling stock options as soon as they vest. Well assuming the cycle time is fast enough and you’re staying through multiple cycles. It’s like x every year vs cycling between 0 and 4x.

mchristen 7y ago

Check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Keller_(engineer) to answer your question about loyalty. He's had his hand in all kinds of chips you use.

api 7y ago
I don't think him jumping back and forth is a bad thing. I'd prefer if Intel and AMD (and others) were at each others throats constantly. We're the winners in that scenario, with more and faster and cheaper chips to choose from.

starpilot 7y ago

AMD/Intel make incredible products, but there's mostly bitching about workplace environment at those places on Blind.

code_biologist 7y ago

It already sounds like the environment in Intel isn't great, and a lot of the staff dynamics are very driven by cost-cutting. Great video on youtube posted in the last week with a bunch of leaks from Intel employees: https://youtu.be/agxSclh27uo https://youtu.be/agxSclh27uo

AtlasBarfed 7y ago
Pretty standard fare for monopoly/cartel in all segments in America. Pump stock, hit options, golden parachute. I will say the last time AMD had a brief lead on Intel with Athlon, they laid on their laurels and started milking customers in record time. I think that was Hector Ruiz. The last time, it was pretty clear from the mobile processors that the core engineering talent was somewhere in the company, I think the Core processor was from an Israeli team rather than the one pushing out the high-frequency pipeline-stalls-be-damned stuff. But I get the feeling with the stunning, STUNNING process lead collapse that the engineering talent is fundamentally gone. Intel had a two or three year lead it was thought at one point.
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