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Sorry, where is the refutation to this?

• SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  Apple and Amazon produced detailed statements[1] explaining that they never found what the reporters say they found. And nobody has yet produced any concrete evidence of the spy chips existing; no example, no picture, no documents referring to them. It's impossible to definitively refute anonymous claims that some secret thing exists, but I think it's unreasonable to believe them. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/4/17936968/apple-amazon-deny-servers-chinese-spy-chips https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/4/17936968/apple-amazon-den...
  • redis_mlc 7y ago
    > this company published the largest fake news about China that one could conceive Was this particular article based on evidence? We don't know. Was it 100% plausible and done by governments all the time? Absolutely. Are IPMI, BMC and managemnt engines complete garbage from a security standpoint? Absolutely. So I find the strong language very over the top. If you know the history of weakening security equipment, then you wouldn't even bat an eye over this. You know how bad Zoom security is? It's actually 10x better than any IPMI or BMC code. I'd get worked up about that, which is on every server motherboard already.
    • SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
      Sorry, yes, I didn't mean to give a misleading impression. It's very plausible that a government might intercept hardware in this way. I'm just skeptical of this specific way (there's got to be a subversion both easier and less obvious than planting a magic spy chip), and don't believe that Apple and Amazon would issue such strong denials if they had in fact found such a chip.