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I welcome a new tool that competes with Terraform, but I have 2 negative points: - where's the option to deploy to self hosted infrastructure? (E.g. Proxmox, v
by mister_hn 7y ago
I welcome a new tool that competes with Terraform, but I have 2 negative points:
- where's the option to deploy to self hosted infrastructure? (E.g. Proxmox, vCenter, ESX)
- what's the "Pulumi service" and why can I self host it, but cannot deploy services to self hosted Infrastructure?
- jen20 7y agoESXi is indeed available as a target (here: https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi-vsphere https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi-vsphere). The reasons that self-hosted infrastructure is less prevalent in tools such as Pulumi (and Terraform) are many - not least demand - but one reason is that vendors make it INCREDIBLY difficult to test thanks to proprietary license costs. I brought up an ESXi provider for Terraform in 2015, and VMWare were not even remotely interested in giving us the ability to test it via a license grant, and I was obviously not about to pay VMWare to test integration for a product I don't even use. In the end I never released or upstreamed it, preferring to work on targets whose vendors were more co-operative.
- mister_hn 7y agobut there's Proxmox, which is free
- kiney 7y agobut the proxmox devs seem to have no interest in terraform (or pulumi) support
- mister_hn 7y agowhy not? There's a REST API and I don't think Amazon devs actively developed modules for terraform or pulumi, but the way around...so the pulumi devs seem to have no interest in Proxmox support.