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> The Russians writing system tries to be phonetic but doesn't seem to do well this way. It does not? Creating a fully phonetic writing system that is also con
by h91wka 7y ago
> The Russians writing system tries to be phonetic but doesn't seem to do well this way.
It does not? Creating a fully phonetic writing system that is also consistent is an impossible task. For example, different dialects can interchange "o" and "a" sounds, how this should be solved in a "proper" phonetic system?
- qwerty456127 7y ago> Creating a fully phonetic writing system that is also consistent is an impossible task. Look at Czech or Korean. Nothing is 100% perfect but these are pretty close to. > For example, different dialects can interchange "o" and "a" sounds, how this should be solved in a "proper" phonetic system? Use å ;-)
- h91wka 7y agoAs far as I know, in Swedish å does not have any ambiguity and is always read as "o" (as in "ocean"). My point is that different people pronounce things as they are used to, reflecting it in a writing system leads to complexity and inconsistency.
- petters 7y agoIt is a distinct vowel sound.
- 867-5309 7y ago> As far as I know, in Swedish å does not have any ambiguity and is always read as "o" (as in "ocean"). perhaps in Geordie dialect! it's actually closer to the "o" in "thought"
- pbhjpbhj 7y agoAside, I wonder how long UK dialects will survive: my kids often come out with US Americanisms - of both word choice [garbage] and pronounciation - because of the media they consume.
- anticensor 7y agoI do not know much about UK dialects, but someday US will speak a Kiwi-influenced dialect. Received Pronunciation will survive due to preservation efforts.
- 867-5309 7y agoyou have my attention, do go on..
- Lermex 7y agoI am a native Russian speaker and a former Korean language major. I would estimate that the modern Korean writing system has roughly the same amount of exceptions and non-phonetic spellings as the Russian one. For example, the letter ㅎ (h) is not pronounced in a lot of cases. Some other consonants are reduced depending on their position in the syllable, etc. The illusion that Korean is "pronounced as written" is created by the fact that Koreans are extremely happy when you learn to speak their language at all. I as a Russian speaker would also rather hear you pronounce Russian words as they are written than not try to learn Russian at all :) But as soon as you start working on sounding as close to native as possible, that illusion of simplicity quickly breaks down.
- anticensor 7y agoIt would be ӭ, as it is not exactly a, instead somewhere between a and ə.
- jgwil2 7y agoSpanish is fully phonetic from script to speech and very close in the other direction (in some dialects certain consonants have merged).