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Possibly relevant: > President Trump tweeted Monday that the "decision to open up the states" following shutdown measures taken to stop the spread of the coron

by aazaa 7y ago

Possibly relevant: > President Trump tweeted Monday that the "decision to open up the states" following shutdown measures taken to stop the spread of the coronavirus lies with him, not governors. https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-reopening-governors-states-3ce510ff-cd94-4b4a-89b8-58d8bca5d69f.html https://www.axios.com/trump-coronavirus-reopening-governors-...

r00fus 7y ago
Is this me or does this someone who wants control but not responsibility?
- jlj 7y ago
  It's really someone who wants to own the success of others and blame others for failures. Zero accountability yet still wanting to call the shots.
  - Loughla 7y ago
    It's wild watching someone who seems to just be a garbage manager be in charge of something as large as the nation. Micromanaging. Manage via publicity. PR instead of content. Agreement instead of actual thought and discussion. I've left jobs over a combination of two of those things, and it seems like we have all of them right now as a nation. I wish someone who has direct reported to Trump in the past was on this site and could give insights into his actual managerial style. edit: I'm not trying to talk politics, if that's why I'm being downvoted. My observations are that he is not a good manager. This is what I see in the news and what I read. Both from external media, the white house, and his own tweets. If you disagree, please explain why. I'm looking for hope and don't see any. I would love to.
    - erdos4d 7y ago
      I'm not the person you're looking for on that, but I have read a number of pieces by people who have been there and experienced it. In those articles, the word "gaslighting" appeared enough to prominenetly stick in my brain.
    - sandworm101 7y ago
      >> I wish someone who has direct reported to Trump in the past was on this site and could give insights into his actual managerial style. I've never worked with the man directly, but I work with people who take direction from him. It isn't an act. This is not a mad genius playing the befuddled character at the microphone (Boris J) only to become a cool dictator behind the scenes. The chaos and incoherence you see on TV and twitter is the 24/7 reality.
- jcranmer 7y ago
  You're not the only one who has had the same immediate take.
- devonkim 7y ago
  Ah, and the flipside that many of us are familiar with - all the responsibility, none of the authority to fix it. Great recipe for burning down entire companies and driving away talent.
throwaway_USD 7y ago
Ironically Trump refused to "shutdown" the States a decision he deferred to the Governors.
- grey-area 7y ago
  I'm not sure why this is downvoted, as it is correct. https://apnews.com/c90b24e60a4853cebe96ec995b626f9b https://apnews.com/c90b24e60a4853cebe96ec995b626f9b
- danhak 7y ago
  Yes, he wanted to dodge responsibility for the unpleasant job of shutting things down. Now he wants to enjoy positive publicity for opening things back up.
  - RandomTisk 7y ago
    He wanted to shut down travel from China in January, something he got reamed for politically by the media and the left. Damned if you do and all that.
    - danhak 7y ago
      I'm not able to find examples of that. Can you point to any mainstream media outlets "reaming" him over that decision?
      - Thorondor 7y ago
        Not the person you're replying to, but here are a few examples. CNN: "Experts say travel restrictions the Trump administration put in place to stop the novel coronavirus from spreading could have unintended consequences that undermine that effort." (https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/health/coronavirus-travel-ban/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/health/coronavirus-travel-ban...) The Atlantic: "Guiding Trump’s response is a hardheaded nationalism... Critics from WHO and elsewhere have said the bans are unnecessary and could generate a racist backlash against Chinese people." (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/trump-response-coronavirus/606610/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/trump-r...)
a3n 7y ago
I think what's probably more relevant is the chaos of trying to get aid from the federal government, combined with Trump and Kushner's declaration that any national stockpile is for the federal government, not the states, even though nobody lives in the federal government, we all live in states or similar entities. I think they flipped the fuckit bit.

by aazaa 7y ago

r00fus 7y ago

Is this me or does this someone who wants control but not responsibility?

jlj 7y ago
It's really someone who wants to own the success of others and blame others for failures. Zero accountability yet still wanting to call the shots.
- Loughla 7y ago
  It's wild watching someone who seems to just be a garbage manager be in charge of something as large as the nation. Micromanaging. Manage via publicity. PR instead of content. Agreement instead of actual thought and discussion. I've left jobs over a combination of two of those things, and it seems like we have all of them right now as a nation. I wish someone who has direct reported to Trump in the past was on this site and could give insights into his actual managerial style. edit: I'm not trying to talk politics, if that's why I'm being downvoted. My observations are that he is not a good manager. This is what I see in the news and what I read. Both from external media, the white house, and his own tweets. If you disagree, please explain why. I'm looking for hope and don't see any. I would love to.
  - erdos4d 7y ago
    I'm not the person you're looking for on that, but I have read a number of pieces by people who have been there and experienced it. In those articles, the word "gaslighting" appeared enough to prominenetly stick in my brain.
  - sandworm101 7y ago
    >> I wish someone who has direct reported to Trump in the past was on this site and could give insights into his actual managerial style. I've never worked with the man directly, but I work with people who take direction from him. It isn't an act. This is not a mad genius playing the befuddled character at the microphone (Boris J) only to become a cool dictator behind the scenes. The chaos and incoherence you see on TV and twitter is the 24/7 reality.
jcranmer 7y ago
You're not the only one who has had the same immediate take.
devonkim 7y ago
Ah, and the flipside that many of us are familiar with - all the responsibility, none of the authority to fix it. Great recipe for burning down entire companies and driving away talent.

throwaway_USD 7y ago

Ironically Trump refused to "shutdown" the States a decision he deferred to the Governors.

grey-area 7y ago
I'm not sure why this is downvoted, as it is correct. https://apnews.com/c90b24e60a4853cebe96ec995b626f9b https://apnews.com/c90b24e60a4853cebe96ec995b626f9b
danhak 7y ago
Yes, he wanted to dodge responsibility for the unpleasant job of shutting things down. Now he wants to enjoy positive publicity for opening things back up.
- RandomTisk 7y ago
  He wanted to shut down travel from China in January, something he got reamed for politically by the media and the left. Damned if you do and all that.
  - danhak 7y ago
    I'm not able to find examples of that. Can you point to any mainstream media outlets "reaming" him over that decision?
    - Thorondor 7y ago
      Not the person you're replying to, but here are a few examples. CNN: "Experts say travel restrictions the Trump administration put in place to stop the novel coronavirus from spreading could have unintended consequences that undermine that effort." (https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/health/coronavirus-travel-ban/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/07/health/coronavirus-travel-ban...) The Atlantic: "Guiding Trump’s response is a hardheaded nationalism... Critics from WHO and elsewhere have said the bans are unnecessary and could generate a racist backlash against Chinese people." (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/trump-response-coronavirus/606610/ https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/02/trump-r...)

a3n 7y ago

I think what's probably more relevant is the chaos of trying to get aid from the federal government, combined with Trump and Kushner's declaration that any national stockpile is for the federal government, not the states, even though nobody lives in the federal government, we all live in states or similar entities. I think they flipped the fuckit bit.