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So you're saying the iPad has sold more than 90% of all devices that are like iPads? Seems verging on tautological to me.
by NickPollard 16y ago
So you're saying the iPad has sold more than 90% of all devices that are like iPads? Seems verging on tautological to me.
- mambodog 16y agoI'm pretty sure there's room for a distinction between iPad-style media/web tablets and the simpler "reader" type ones like the Kindle and Nook.
- NickPollard 16y agoI'm not arguing that, but remember the nook-color has internet, wifi, games and an app-store. Is that an e-reader or a tablet? (Note: that's all if you don't root it, those who do can do pretty much anything on it that android can do)
- lukifer 16y agoThe iPad does compete with the Kindle, but they are clearly in different product categories. However, I'm inclined to agree that the Nook is closer to the iPad than the Kindle, without even having to root it.
- pmjordan 16y agoDo any of the Kindles, etc. have touch sensitive main screens? 'Tablet' isn't exactly a new term and has implied a large touchscreen for a long time now. Seems a reasonable distinction considering the difference in how you interact with the devices.
- orangecat 16y agoThe Nook is literally a 7" Android tablet. (Capacitive multitouch screen, same CPU and GPU as Droid X). And a pretty good one once you root it, which consists of inserting an SD card and turning it on.
- rkudeshi 16y agoThat's the Nook Color, actually. The Nook (the original one, which goes by simply 'Nook') is an e-reader with a 6" eInk screen (a Kindle clone, if you will).
- joebadmo 16y agoThe Nook does have a touch screen. And I think historically 'Tablet' has referred to pen-input devices, which aren't exactly the same as 'touch sensitive.'
- Jun8 16y agoWell, that's one advantage of being the first mass merket provider, you define the genre, like how Toyota has defined the crossover SUV because they were the first to build one. But the actual hardware is half the story (or maybe 30%), these things will live and die with their respective app stores, which is a point Scroble made in his blog. Currently iPad is lightyears away. As for the reader/tablet discussion: this will blur in the future. Amazon is getting their app store ready as we speak.
- NickPollard 16y agoDefining the genre is all well and good, until someone else re-defines it out from under your feet. At the early stage in the tablet genre we're at, this is largely moot - clearly Apple have a huge lead, both in sales and in consumer mindshare, and everyone else is playing catchup. On the other hand, things can change. I'm sure Sony and Nintendo would be quite happy to define the 'handheld gaming device' genre as one in which devices have buttons and analogue sticks, but saying they've got 90%+ of the 'buttons and analogue sticks' genre isn't much comfort if everyone is using their smartphones and tablets for gaming. Similarly, Newspapers and printed media will be happy to define 'newspaper' to be something printed on real paper and then claim X marketshare, that doesn't mean that they're not losing out to online news sites. If in a years time, Apple are saying 'but we have 90% of the REAL tablet market!' then the shareholders should be worried. At the end of the day, it's still a case of No True Scotsman[1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
- jimbokun 16y ago"So you're saying the iPad has sold more than 90% of all devices that are like iPads?" Or to put it another way, there are no other products like iPad.
- JabavuAdams 16y agoAka The No True Scotsman Fallacy
- danssig 16y agoRight. Then they need to count Etcha-Sketch in there too.
- wmeredith 16y agoYep, that's right. And the only competitors are the streak and Xoom in those terms.