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They can have services and still respect social distancing just like the supermarkets. Let's not get crazy here with the authoritarianism.

by gfosco 7y ago

mrlala 7y ago
Then why can't all business just be open and "respect social distancing" as you claim? I guess next you'll tell me a church is a vital business like a grocery store.
- gfosco 7y ago
  Lowe's and Home Depot are open, Sherwin-Williams paint stores are open, the gun stores are open... People have different views on what is essential, to them, and nationally we don't have any agreement on what is and isn't essential or vital. There are many exceptions. Yes, to many people, their church is a vital service.
  - ceejayoz 7y ago
    Lowes is open because a burst pipe or broken fridge is a critical issue. Gun stores are open because the NRA threatened to sue and states don’t want the fight right now. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/nra-new-york-gun-store-non-essential/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/nra-new-york-gun-sto...
    - giardini 7y ago
      But what could possibly be more important than your immortal soul?
      - ceejayoz 7y ago
        The Bible is pretty clear that private, personal prayer counts, and is even preferable. There’s always Zoom, too.
        giardini 7y ago
        I'm pretty sure that God doesn't use Zoom! As for your first sentence: He's never home anyway! I've tried often enough. My new motto is "God helps those who help themselves!"
- SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
  They probably could be. Policy responses have erred on the side of caution, which is entirely fair, but it's unlikely that clothing stores or bookshops are a significant vector of infection.
- ewfjkllawjfa 7y ago
  "social distancing" is 1984 language - orwell couldn't dream this shit up - open the fucking country! fire fucking fauci!, cuomo and && gavin and those others should go rot in jail
- h_r 7y ago
  This made me laugh out loud. Early this afternoon I walked by a local church on the way to do some shopping and there was a group of 8 or 9 people kneeling in front of it praying. They were holding signs with various slogans, one of which said exactly that: Churches are vital business. I should mention this is a Catholic church that serves the Eucharist during every mass where multiple people hand out wafers to eat, using their bare hands. [edit: grammar and additions]
  - true_religion 7y ago
    Catholicism has a long storied history, so there are provisions for almost everything. I remember in school learning that if you were on shipwrecked on a desert island, you or anyone else could perform sacraments yourself and they would count just as well as if they were done by a priest. This is the practice of “spiritual communion”. In modern times, it has most notably been used where a person is sick, or otherwise inaccessible to a priest (e.g. stuck in a mine shaft or on an oil rig or in space). This is currently what the Catholic Pope is promoting. There is also a happy debate going on about if you can perform sacraments via the internet. There is nothing liturgical about distance to the participant. The rules regarding sacraments are more about intention and who is performing it. Some priest believe that physical presence is always unimportant, but our slow moving Papacy takes a more conservative stance.

They can have services and still respect social distancing just like the supermarkets. Let's not get crazy here with the authoritarianism.

by gfosco 7y ago

They can have services and still respect social distancing just like the supermarkets. Let's not get crazy here with the authoritarianism.

mrlala 7y ago

Then why can't all business just be open and "respect social distancing" as you claim? I guess next you'll tell me a church is a vital business like a grocery store.

gfosco 7y ago
Lowe's and Home Depot are open, Sherwin-Williams paint stores are open, the gun stores are open... People have different views on what is essential, to them, and nationally we don't have any agreement on what is and isn't essential or vital. There are many exceptions. Yes, to many people, their church is a vital service.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  Lowes is open because a burst pipe or broken fridge is a critical issue. Gun stores are open because the NRA threatened to sue and states don’t want the fight right now. https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/nra-new-york-gun-store-non-essential/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/nra-new-york-gun-sto...
  - giardini 7y ago
    But what could possibly be more important than your immortal soul?
    - ceejayoz 7y ago
      The Bible is pretty clear that private, personal prayer counts, and is even preferable. There’s always Zoom, too.
      - giardini 7y ago
        I'm pretty sure that God doesn't use Zoom! As for your first sentence: He's never home anyway! I've tried often enough. My new motto is "God helps those who help themselves!"
SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
They probably could be. Policy responses have erred on the side of caution, which is entirely fair, but it's unlikely that clothing stores or bookshops are a significant vector of infection.
ewfjkllawjfa 7y ago
"social distancing" is 1984 language - orwell couldn't dream this shit up - open the fucking country! fire fucking fauci!, cuomo and && gavin and those others should go rot in jail
h_r 7y ago
This made me laugh out loud. Early this afternoon I walked by a local church on the way to do some shopping and there was a group of 8 or 9 people kneeling in front of it praying. They were holding signs with various slogans, one of which said exactly that: Churches are vital business. I should mention this is a Catholic church that serves the Eucharist during every mass where multiple people hand out wafers to eat, using their bare hands. [edit: grammar and additions]
- true_religion 7y ago
  Catholicism has a long storied history, so there are provisions for almost everything. I remember in school learning that if you were on shipwrecked on a desert island, you or anyone else could perform sacraments yourself and they would count just as well as if they were done by a priest. This is the practice of “spiritual communion”. In modern times, it has most notably been used where a person is sick, or otherwise inaccessible to a priest (e.g. stuck in a mine shaft or on an oil rig or in space). This is currently what the Catholic Pope is promoting. There is also a happy debate going on about if you can perform sacraments via the internet. There is nothing liturgical about distance to the participant. The rules regarding sacraments are more about intention and who is performing it. Some priest believe that physical presence is always unimportant, but our slow moving Papacy takes a more conservative stance.