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People aren't being forcefully sharing their health status via FB, IG, etc. Imagine if Facebook published if you had an STD to your friends.

by monksy 7y ago

SkyBelow 7y ago
Given the number of deaths caused by STDs, it is perhaps justifiable for such data to be shared in the same fashion as one's Covid-19 status, assuming the sharing of the latter is justified.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  COVID is unlikely dramatically more deadly than the flu, so the question is, if you're okay sharing your health data over COVID, why not the flu? It kills 650,000 people (60,000 Americans) every single year. The reality is widespread panic moments are when we lose our civil rights. Remember 9/11? That year more people died slipping and falling in the shower than died in the twin towers. More people died because they chose to drive short distances instead of flying than died in the twin towers. And we got the Patriot act and a trillion dollar war. Humans have a way of overreacting.
  - dmarchand90 7y ago
    I'm not sure where you get the source the covid19 is no deadlier than the flu as that seems to be thoroughly debunked at this point
    - arcticbull 7y ago
      It's worse, about 3.7X worse according to the latest data, with impact massively skewed towards the older (100X more lethal to them than to a 20-40 year old).
  - ModernMech 7y ago
    > It kills 650,000 people (60,000 Americans) every single year. That's over a ~6 month season. If you average that out it's 10k per month. We'll have 20k dead tomorrow from covid and it hasn't even peaked yet. This is with extreme lockdown measures implemented. How much worse would those numbers be if everyone was going about their business as usual the way they do the flu?
    - arcticbull 7y ago
      Well, a study of a German town showed 15% are already immune/have had it and a mortality rate of 0.37% vs the flu at 0.1%. [1] If you run the numbers and project that onto the US population we'd see an incremental 600K deaths this year. Unlike the flu, which mutates aggressively and recurs, we haven't seen much mutation of COVID. That means, unlike the flu which will kill 60K next year, and the following and so on, this will kill 600K once. [2] So, my answer to your question, is an incremental 600K once. Although given those numbers are averaged and the impact is 100X worse for the elderly than the young, I question whether these would be incremental deaths at all. In Italy the average dead its 80.5 years old with 3 underlying conditions. If COVID hadn't taken them, the flu may well have. One study showed a case fatality rate of 10% in the over-75s for H1N1. Ideally, we'd isolate them, and let everyone else out like the Swedes. [1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tes... [2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/the-coronavirus-isnt-mutating-quickly-suggesting-a-vaccine-would-offer-lasting-protection/2020/03/24/406522d6-6dfd-11ea-b148-e4ce3fbd85b5_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/the-coronavirus-isnt-m...
      - deanBlunt 7y ago
        Your citation says nothing about mutations, yet it’s placement seems to indicate that is included.
      - arcticbull 7y ago
        @deanBlunt my bad, updated.
      - 7y ago

People aren't being forcefully sharing their health status via FB, IG, etc. Imagine if Facebook published if you had an STD to your friends.

by monksy 7y ago

People aren't being forcefully sharing their health status via FB, IG, etc. Imagine if Facebook published if you had an STD to your friends.

SkyBelow 7y ago

Given the number of deaths caused by STDs, it is perhaps justifiable for such data to be shared in the same fashion as one's Covid-19 status, assuming the sharing of the latter is justified.

arcticbull 7y ago
COVID is unlikely dramatically more deadly than the flu, so the question is, if you're okay sharing your health data over COVID, why not the flu? It kills 650,000 people (60,000 Americans) every single year. The reality is widespread panic moments are when we lose our civil rights. Remember 9/11? That year more people died slipping and falling in the shower than died in the twin towers. More people died because they chose to drive short distances instead of flying than died in the twin towers. And we got the Patriot act and a trillion dollar war. Humans have a way of overreacting.
- dmarchand90 7y ago
  I'm not sure where you get the source the covid19 is no deadlier than the flu as that seems to be thoroughly debunked at this point
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    It's worse, about 3.7X worse according to the latest data, with impact massively skewed towards the older (100X more lethal to them than to a 20-40 year old).
- ModernMech 7y ago
  > It kills 650,000 people (60,000 Americans) every single year. That's over a ~6 month season. If you average that out it's 10k per month. We'll have 20k dead tomorrow from covid and it hasn't even peaked yet. This is with extreme lockdown measures implemented. How much worse would those numbers be if everyone was going about their business as usual the way they do the flu?
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    Well, a study of a German town showed 15% are already immune/have had it and a mortality rate of 0.37% vs the flu at 0.1%. [1] If you run the numbers and project that onto the US population we'd see an incremental 600K deaths this year. Unlike the flu, which mutates aggressively and recurs, we haven't seen much mutation of COVID. That means, unlike the flu which will kill 60K next year, and the following and so on, this will kill 600K once. [2] So, my answer to your question, is an incremental 600K once. Although given those numbers are averaged and the impact is 100X worse for the elderly than the young, I question whether these would be incremental deaths at all. In Italy the average dead its 80.5 years old with 3 underlying conditions. If COVID hadn't taken them, the flu may well have. One study showed a case fatality rate of 10% in the over-75s for H1N1. Ideally, we'd isolate them, and let everyone else out like the Swedes. [1] https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tests-show-15-of-people-are-now-immune-to-covid-19-in-one-town-in-germany/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/09/999015/blood-tes... [2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/the-coronavirus-isnt-mutating-quickly-suggesting-a-vaccine-would-offer-lasting-protection/2020/03/24/406522d6-6dfd-11ea-b148-e4ce3fbd85b5_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/the-coronavirus-isnt-m...
    - deanBlunt 7y ago
      Your citation says nothing about mutations, yet it’s placement seems to indicate that is included.
    - arcticbull 7y ago
      @deanBlunt my bad, updated.
    - 7y ago