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Firefox 75: Ambitions for April
- WhyNotHugo 7y agoThere's no mention of any of the promised Wayland improvements (which I'd been looking forward to). It's a bit unclear if it hasn't made it to the final release, or if it's just a matter of the Linux userbase being too small for them to announce Linux-specific changes.
- yaantc 7y agoAccording to Phoronix it's in: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-75-Released https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-...
- mauricedenassau 7y agoI second this, since I switched to wayland, I noticed many weird graphical issues with Firefox, hoping this release will fix them.
- quicklime 7y agoAccording to https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox#Wayland https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox#Wayland, if you want to see whether you're using the Wayland version of Firefox, go to about:support and look next to "Window Protocol". Wayland can be enabled at runtime using an environment variable: `MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 firefox`. I just updated to Firefox 75 and it's still using x11. If I opt in to using Wayland, it works, but annoyingly I can't detach a tab by dragging it off of the window. So it looks like Wayland support is not quite there yet.
- owenshen24 7y agoBuilt-in support for lazy image loading is pretty nice! No more annoying JS-based hacks to get it to work.
- AnonC 7y agoDo all the other popular browsers, like Google Chrome, Microsoft Edge (the new one) and Brave, also support this?
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- hundchenkatze 7y agoIt looks like the Blink based browsers do. https://caniuse.com/#feat=loading-lazy-attr https://caniuse.com/#feat=loading-lazy-attr
- judah 7y agoThey mention in the post that Chrome has implemented lazy loading for both images and iframes, suggesting it's also in Edge and Brave.
- ric2b 6y agoStill waiting for support on Safari and a few mobile browsers.
- AndrewStephens 7y agoTwo things I am looking forward to: * Lazy loading images without JavaScript * Static fields in JavaScript classes - I wanted to use this the other day and was disappointed that FF didn't support static fields yet.
- clairity 7y agofirefox also removes 'www' and 'https' in drop-down search results from the address bar[0]. it's a subtle change, but worth knowing. 'http' urls remain in long form apparently (haven't installed yet to check it out). edit: min(), max(), and clamp() for css looks useful too. edit 2: honoring 'nosniff' on mime types on page load is neat too [1] [0] https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/28/firefox-75-address-bar-results/ https://www.ghacks.net/2020/02/28/firefox-75-address-bar-res... [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/04/07/firefox-75-will-respect-nosniff-for-page-loads/ https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2020/04/07/firefox-75-will...
- chrismorgan 7y agoFenix is also now stripping https:// https:// and https://www https://www. from the address bar, which I strongly approve of as it has none of the downsides that doing that would have on desktop (OK, OK, so www. stripping can be theoretically significant), and I have a not-huge device so that that was taking up around half of the space allotted to text. Now if only I could do away with the padlock (only show it when it’s problematic, not all the time) and shrink the remaining badge much smaller. And/or if you could scroll the text horizontally like you could in Firefox for Android.
- catalogia 7y agoI wouldn't have a problem with it, if not for my experience with Chrome letting you copy addresses out of the address bar without the https://www https://www. I don't think it's supposed to happen, it doesn't happen every time, but I've had it happen. This is obnoxious because when I then paste that link into something else, like an email, IRC or HN comment, it generally won't get automatically 'linkified.'
- oefrha 7y agoExcept in Chrome, say I’m on https://www.google.com/chrome/ https://www.google.com/chrome/, which is shown as google.com/chrome/. Now for one reason or another I want to copy only part of the address, say only the domain name. So I grab “google.com” with my mouse and command+c to copy it. Congratulations, I just copied https://www.google.com https://www.google.com, although I explicitly selected only the “google.com” part. I can understand the behavior if I was copying the entire URL. Now, I’m not sure how this is handled in the mobile Firefox Preview, but thankfully on desktop they only dim https://[www.] https://[www.]. (Btw, it seems a sibling somehow has the exact opposite gripe.)
- gshdg 7y agoWill lazy-loading images avoid viewport jumping? Because that's a constant headache on mobile Safari.
- Analemma_ 7y agoViewport jumping is the scourge of web browsing; if some browser deployed some kind of advanced heuristic to try and get rid of it completely that alone might get me to switch.
- drampelt 7y agoI remembered hearing about Chrome doing it a while ago [1] but I still personally experience it fairly often. 1: https://blog.google/products/chrome/taking-aim-annoying-page-jumps-chrome/ https://blog.google/products/chrome/taking-aim-annoying-page...
- staktrace 7y agoBoth Firefox and Chrome have implementations of scroll anchoring which is intended to fix this. The implementations are different and neither is perfect, but in a lot of cases they do help with jumping.
- eps 7y agoNearly all image formats have image dimensions in their header, so a hundred-byte prefetch per image should give the browser the image size IF it's not specified in the html or css.
- butz 7y agoNow it is recommended to use width and height attributes on img elements. It will help to prevent viewport jumping and will support responsive aspect ratio resizing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-d_SoCHeWE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-d_SoCHeWE
- gshdg 7y ago
- butz 7y agoHow do I change search engine from search bar? Before update there were icons with my saved search engines, but now they are nowhere to be seen.
- mythmon_ 7y agoOnce you start typing the same icons should show up again. You can click on them to perform just that search with the selected search engine, or right click on it to make it the default.
- edflsafoiewq 7y agoI hate this kind of UI. The very worst I've seen is in Krita (maybe they've changed it) where to make a new brush you had to select the name field of an existing brush and edit it, and only then would the button for "Save a Copy as a New Brush" or whatever appear. Good luck hunting for the "New Brush" button, you're not going to find it.
- butz 7y agoProblem solved. I had browser.urlbar.oneOffSearches set to false.
- coribuci 7y agoSo there is no issue in firefox that about:config cannot fix. Sad
- butz 7y agoAnd there are some minimal improvements to "Install Website as App": now app is not grouped with Firefox icon on Windows, displays correct icon. Little steps towards full PWA support.
- itwy 7y agoThey should fix looking up for things such as "clipboard.js" attempting to look up the domain and giving not found page. Chrome is smarter in this regard.
- aswan 7y agoIts being worked on: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080682 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1080682
- tictok4 7y agoHopefully this fixes Firefox 74. First time in years I can say that I've had stability problems, frequent crashes, etc.
- rvz 7y agoI definitely agree if you compare it to MS Edge. However, it appears you are being downvoted for disagreeing with the Mozillian crowd in this thread by critiquing their beloved Firefox which is somewhat seen as treasonous. Try to play nice with the Mozillians here by praising their saviour Rust on each Firefox release since they will hunt us down if we complain about crashes, unsafety or any other bugs in Linux. I'll go first: 𝔓𝔯𝔞𝔦𝔰𝔢 ℜ𝔳𝔰𝔱 MMXX
- amadeusz 7y agoSo... anyone knows how to restore old address bar look, instead of this weird popup thingy?
- enrichpu 7y agodeedd
- empo_simo 7y agoafssssss
- benbristow 7y agoNice to see Mozilla keeping up. Don't really have much reason personally to use Firefox nowadays though due to the new Microsoft Edge being so good.
- rvz 7y agoI have to agree here. If VSCode seems to be a widely accepted editor on HN using Electron, then I can't wait to see what Microsoft has done with MS Edge which so far is a breath of fresh air. Time to go where the 'real' users are.
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- hising 7y ago"On Linux, the behavior when clicking on the Address Bar and the Search Bar now matches other desktop platforms" - yay, I have found it annoying that you need to double-click in order to select all and start searching
- ship_it 7y agoAs a pentester I love this fix. Like when testing simple payloads on GET params (and switching back and forth between host MacOS and Virtual Linux).
- hising 7y agoI try to use the keyboard a lot but for some reason I often "click" the address bar when searching and/or changing in the urls so I this was a caveat for me actually.
- pythux 7y agoYey! This is a fun one, I fixed it in Cliqz (a browser based on Firefox) a while ago: https://github.com/cliqz-oss/browser-f/pull/912#issue-195908302 https://github.com/cliqz-oss/browser-f/pull/912#issue-195908... If you are wondering why this discrepancy in behavior between platforms: This default behavior was initially changed to prevent a 16-years old bug in SeaMonkey, which was already fixed in Firefox since 2007. See following issues for more details: * https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190615 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190615 * https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611162 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=611162 Inertia I guess... happy to see this fixed upstream!
- hising 7y agoGreat work! Nice with the background to the annoyance.
- pythux 7y agoJust to avoid any confusion, I have nothing to do with the change of behavior in Firefox 75. And the « fix » was only about changing the default behavior with new prefs values (the real fix was done in Firefox around 2007 but for some reason the default behavior was never reverted until now).
- ned_roberts 7y agoA big one for me (covered in the release notes): "Experimental support for using client certificates from the OS certificate store can be enabled on macOS by setting the preference security.osclientcerts.autoload to true." This allows Firefox to work with my company's BeyondCorp implementation. I was forced to use Chrome before.
- majewsky 7y agoAwesome. Any word on whether this also applies to Windows? (Asking for a company-issued notebook.)
- bronxasaur 7y agoOn Windows, you should be able to set `security.enterprise_roots.enabled` to true. Might have to restart Firefox for it to recognize.
- U8dcN7vx 7y agoEnterprise root certs are different from client certs even if some (perhaps many or most) client certs were signed by an enterprise root. A client cert is about providing identity information/proofs (instead of or in addition to traditional credentials). I hope mozilla isn't conflating the two though I can see how they might decide that turning on one thing gets you the other as well.
- lawnchair_larry 7y agoCould you not just copy the cert from keychain to firefox’s cert store?
- ggreer 7y agoThat's possible, but the certs expire very quickly and they only offer access to a tiny subset of resources. You'd be constantly exporting & importing certs.
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- franczesko 7y agoWorld runs on mobile, Mozilla focuses of desktop.
- saagarjha 7y agoMost web developers (which this piece is presumably of interest to) do their work on desktop.
- sudosysgen 7y agoFirefox Mobile also has a lot of improvements coming up. The previews are actually quite amazing
- worik 7y agoOn desktop (laptop truly) here
- agumonkey 7y agoah live console eval as comment, such a bliss
- hartator 7y ago> evnt breakpoints Typo in the first paragraph.
- ravenstine 7y agoIt would be great if the inspector supported dark mode.
- recursive 7y agoIt has for a while. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Settings https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Settings
- eppsilon 7y agoIf only dark mode on macOS also included the context menus.
- jamesgeck0 7y agoKinda. It has a dark mode, but it doesn't seem to pick up the system preference.
- recursive 6y agoThat is one way to look at it. Personally, I don't regularly use any operating system that has such a preference. To me, FF supports dark mode, although not certain operating systems' implementations.
- jamesgeck0 6y agoThat preference exists on macOS, Windows, iOS, and Android, so it's not an unusual expectation for users to have. Supporting system dark mode means that you can do things like have all applications automatically switch themes based on the time of day. Revising my opinion; Firefox dev tools has a dark theme, but it doesn't support dark mode.
- rozhok 7y agoXPath search is a good one. I've used to scrape some data from the sites and missing search by XPath forced me to use chromium derivatives. Great to see this feature coming.
- sandov 7y agoJust got the update on Ubuntu. The address bar looks horrible when selected [0], it outgrows its container and invades the space of tabs. I thought it was a bug at first, but it's probably intentional. is there a way to go back to the normal address bar? [0] https://imagehost.imageupload.net/2020/04/08/Screenshot-from-2020-04-07-19-21-34.png https://imagehost.imageupload.net/2020/04/08/Screenshot-from...
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- Scottn1 7y agoWait, Am I the only one to notice right away that FF FINALLY added a "Default Zoom" option to its settings? Or has this been there before recently and I've missed it? If this is new then THANKS 1000x. For YEARS this was my main annoyance with FF of not having a general zoom added to all webpages and was the only browser that didn't. FF would remember your set zoom for sites (provided you didn't check "site preferences" in clearing history) but it just became so tedious to have to manually zoom pages you haven't visited before.I even tried to resort to some clumsy add-ons that tried to makeup for lack of system wide zoom {FF as default browser user since Opera died and went to being chrome. Although I do test others out once in while like Brave/Vivaldi/EdgeChrome I'm still loyal}
- sfink 6y agoNo, you weren't really missing anything, default zoom is very recent. I don't remember which version it was, but it was within the last 3. It's a big deal for accessibility.
- weystrom 6y agoHardware video accelleration on Linux with Wayland! I've tested it on Youtube, it works alright, definitely less CPU usage, however on twitch.tv I still get some graphical glitches.