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Wonder if the "traditional" intermittent fasting I've read about (eat during an 8 hr window, can be during the day) provides any of the same benefits. Not eati

by jalopy 6y ago

Wonder if the "traditional" intermittent fasting I've read about (eat during an 8 hr window, can be during the day) provides any of the same benefits. Not eating all day long is tough; it's a lot easier when you get to count your sleep time as fasting. :)

matwood 6y ago
I've noticed since sheltering at home and having fewer eating cues, I have been stretching my normal fasting until lunch later and later.
- arthurjj 6y ago
  Are you in a larger house? I'm in a 2 bedroom apartment and the closeness of the snacks is making it harder
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- mir3la 6y ago
  Me too. It’s the first time since 2016 that I’ve managed to consistently do 20-22h/day instead of 16-18 as before.
cgh 6y ago
I guess it depends on where you live. Eight hours exceeds the time from dawn to sunset for much of the year in northern latitudes. Also, the study doesn't say 16:8 doesn't have the same effects.
jakupovic 6y ago
This is exactly like fasting in Islam, with addition that the time interval varies, as it uses Lunar calendar which rotates throughout the year.
thomascgalvin 6y ago
From the abstract: > Fourteen healthy subjects fasted from dawn to sunset for over 14 h daily. Fasting duration was 30 consecutive days. Edit: There's an infographic further down that changes how I read this. Participants have a late dinner (after sunset) and an early breakfast (pre-sunrise), and fast for at least 14 hours while awake. Traditional IF counts time asleep as part of the fast, and this does not. However, the pre-dawn breakfast essentially resets the fasting clock every morning, which means subjects have two fasting periods per day: about 8 hours while asleep, and about 14 hours while awake. That leaves a two-hour eating window at night, and a short (let's call it thirty minutes) eating window in the morning. This is closer to One Meal a Day (OMAD) than 16/8 in terms of hours spent fasting, but the pre-dawn feeding does make this a unique strategy.
- Funes- 6y ago
  >That leaves a two-hour eating window at night, and a short (let's call it thirty minutes) eating window in the morning. Could this strategy match any kind of naturally-ocurring pre-historic behavior? It would make sense, at least to me, to constrict one's feeding window like that, since eating would take place for as little time as possible and would be limited to two and a half hours with no activity in between. And I'd guess any kind of activity during the day would need no interruption, as well as large energy reserves.
  - thomascgalvin 6y ago
    Some populations almost certainly ate like this at least some of the time, but it's dangerous to talk too specifically about "what life was like back then." There's just too much variation. We know that periods of fasting are good for us; even setting this study aside, we know that autophagy is stimulated by fasting. This does tell us that our ancestors fasted often enough that our bodies are designed to benefit from it, but we can't draw more specific conclusions like "we should eat for eight hours a day" or "we should eat every other day." Also, the fact that modern eating patterns cause disease (which is more or less undisputed) does not mean that our ancestors had a perfect plan that we should follow.

by jalopy 6y ago

matwood 6y ago

I've noticed since sheltering at home and having fewer eating cues, I have been stretching my normal fasting until lunch later and later.

arthurjj 6y ago
Are you in a larger house? I'm in a 2 bedroom apartment and the closeness of the snacks is making it harder
- deleted 6y ago
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mir3la 6y ago
Me too. It’s the first time since 2016 that I’ve managed to consistently do 20-22h/day instead of 16-18 as before.

cgh 6y ago

I guess it depends on where you live. Eight hours exceeds the time from dawn to sunset for much of the year in northern latitudes. Also, the study doesn't say 16:8 doesn't have the same effects.

jakupovic 6y ago

This is exactly like fasting in Islam, with addition that the time interval varies, as it uses Lunar calendar which rotates throughout the year.

thomascgalvin 6y ago

From the abstract: > Fourteen healthy subjects fasted from dawn to sunset for over 14 h daily. Fasting duration was 30 consecutive days. Edit: There's an infographic further down that changes how I read this. Participants have a late dinner (after sunset) and an early breakfast (pre-sunrise), and fast for at least 14 hours while awake. Traditional IF counts time asleep as part of the fast, and this does not. However, the pre-dawn breakfast essentially resets the fasting clock every morning, which means subjects have two fasting periods per day: about 8 hours while asleep, and about 14 hours while awake. That leaves a two-hour eating window at night, and a short (let's call it thirty minutes) eating window in the morning. This is closer to One Meal a Day (OMAD) than 16/8 in terms of hours spent fasting, but the pre-dawn feeding does make this a unique strategy.

Funes- 6y ago
>That leaves a two-hour eating window at night, and a short (let's call it thirty minutes) eating window in the morning. Could this strategy match any kind of naturally-ocurring pre-historic behavior? It would make sense, at least to me, to constrict one's feeding window like that, since eating would take place for as little time as possible and would be limited to two and a half hours with no activity in between. And I'd guess any kind of activity during the day would need no interruption, as well as large energy reserves.
- thomascgalvin 6y ago
  Some populations almost certainly ate like this at least some of the time, but it's dangerous to talk too specifically about "what life was like back then." There's just too much variation. We know that periods of fasting are good for us; even setting this study aside, we know that autophagy is stimulated by fasting. This does tell us that our ancestors fasted often enough that our bodies are designed to benefit from it, but we can't draw more specific conclusions like "we should eat for eight hours a day" or "we should eat every other day." Also, the fact that modern eating patterns cause disease (which is more or less undisputed) does not mean that our ancestors had a perfect plan that we should follow.