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Has Eclipse improved in recent versions? I do .net so I use Visual Studio 2019 mostly, and just used Eclipse back in the day for Java development, and then for

by lukevp 7y ago

Has Eclipse improved in recent versions? I do .net so I use Visual Studio 2019 mostly, and just used Eclipse back in the day for Java development, and then for Android. When Google did a fork of JetBrains as Android Studio I felt it was a pleasant improvement and an indication that the Android community wasn’t happy with Eclipse either, but I may have read too much into this change.

zmmmmm 7y ago
It's improved a lot (I use it every day, alongside IntelliJ and they both have pros and cons, but I probably prefer Eclipse) - but this isn't really related to the classic Eclipse IDE as far as I can tell. It's something completely separate.
- lukevp 7y ago
  I see, that’s interesting. Thanks for the update on Eclipse. Release notes for dirigible said they switched to xterm.js, I’ve been using that lib a lot in both an electron and a web app and it’s been impressive.
vips7L 7y ago
The eclipse language server powers the vs-code Java plugin. I've found it to be quite good.
dragonsh 7y ago
Eclipse foundation has also developed a new modern alternative to VSCode compatible with VSCode extension called Theia [1]. Give it a try. [1] https://www.theia-ide.org https://www.theia-ide.org
pjmlp 7y ago
Replacing Eclipse with InteliJ was and still is a bin pain in the .... Go over to any Android developer channel and see the discussion threads every time a new "stable" release comes out. Always with regressions, you need a gaming rig for any kind of usable development workflow, and C and C++ tooling get always the last bullet on support features. Speaking of C and C++, it took almost two years, until InteliJ decided to create CLion, for Android Studio to provide any kind of support going forward to those NDK users left abandoned on Eclipse CDT with outdated Android plugins. Had InteliJ not released CLion, to this day Google would most likely not provided anything to NDK users. So no, not everyone of us is happy with Android Studio. If anything it made me appreciate Eclipse even more, given that it doesn't make my fans spin all the time, I can keep using my existing hardware for Java development, doesn't need ten finger shortcuts, has an incremental compiler, shows errors and Javadoc without having to do additional configurations.

by lukevp 7y ago

zmmmmm 7y ago

It's improved a lot (I use it every day, alongside IntelliJ and they both have pros and cons, but I probably prefer Eclipse) - but this isn't really related to the classic Eclipse IDE as far as I can tell. It's something completely separate.

lukevp 7y ago
I see, that’s interesting. Thanks for the update on Eclipse. Release notes for dirigible said they switched to xterm.js, I’ve been using that lib a lot in both an electron and a web app and it’s been impressive.

vips7L 7y ago

The eclipse language server powers the vs-code Java plugin. I've found it to be quite good.

dragonsh 7y ago

Eclipse foundation has also developed a new modern alternative to VSCode compatible with VSCode extension called Theia [1]. Give it a try. [1] https://www.theia-ide.org https://www.theia-ide.org

pjmlp 7y ago

Replacing Eclipse with InteliJ was and still is a bin pain in the .... Go over to any Android developer channel and see the discussion threads every time a new "stable" release comes out. Always with regressions, you need a gaming rig for any kind of usable development workflow, and C and C++ tooling get always the last bullet on support features. Speaking of C and C++, it took almost two years, until InteliJ decided to create CLion, for Android Studio to provide any kind of support going forward to those NDK users left abandoned on Eclipse CDT with outdated Android plugins. Had InteliJ not released CLion, to this day Google would most likely not provided anything to NDK users. So no, not everyone of us is happy with Android Studio. If anything it made me appreciate Eclipse even more, given that it doesn't make my fans spin all the time, I can keep using my existing hardware for Java development, doesn't need ten finger shortcuts, has an incremental compiler, shows errors and Javadoc without having to do additional configurations.