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People have to vote that's the only way we will get change.
by sjg007 7y ago
People have to vote that's the only way we will get change.
- LeoTinnitus 7y agoOr revolt. Voting does nothing when the government has financial backers. 100,000 people on the governor's doorstep ready to riot will get bipartisan legislation instilled immediately. The civil rights movement was obviously non violent. However, the unrest, economic effects, and disruption FORCED LBJ, a Democrat who really didn't want it to happen, signing that legislation. Voting in the US is a joke. No minority opinion survives in politics ever. If you go against the grain, you get forced out by other people.
- NotSammyHagar 7y agoYou are wrong in your characterization of lbj on this. He schemed for years to get his great society stuff passed and he supported the civil rights act. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#Johnson's_appeal_to_Congress https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#Joh... It doesn't always take riots for great changes, maybe sometimes. Voting different leaders in, over time, that can change things.
- csomar 7y ago> 100,000 people on the governor's doorstep ready to riot will get bipartisan legislation instilled immediately. That doesn't sound like democracy.
- t-writescode 7y agoThe assumption made here is that democracy is always good.
- ferzul 7y agodemocracy is better because in extreme situations it works. the u.s. is not exactly a democracy tho, because it is so hard for a third party to be viable it's practically illegal. fptp doesn't do that - see canada, india, the u.k. it's a deliberate choice by the powerful to prevent them from having to listen to the weak - which is exactly the point of democracy.
- t-writescode 7y agoI would actually argue that a dictatorship is better in extreme situations than a democracy. Democracies are slow, dictators can produce edicts in a moment. Even the US has tricks to become an approximation if a dictatorship in times of urgency, with marshal law. You don’t put quarantines to a vote, you quarantine. Democracies are good because you need a lot of people’s buy-off to do something and in the general case, that’s a good thing. In the extreme case, it’s too slow.
- LeoTinnitus 7y agoAnd letting the bourgeoisie make up BS that just benefits the select few at the top is?
- blackrock 7y agoThis isn’t the French Revolution anymore. 100,000 people are irrelevant, when the governor has machine guns. And if the people bring guns to the fight, then the governor will bring out the bigger guns: attack helicopters, fighter planes, bombs, etc. Gun ownership is to just make the individual feel better about himself. But, it doesn’t do anything to change the mind of the leadership.
- harry8 7y agoRight now voting is like cheering at the professional wrestling. Do it if that's what you enjoy. Don't think for a second you are having influence. Trump v Biden. Seriously, caring is like caring about the wrestling result. Both these gentleman have been bought and paid for and have zero credibility. While the stench of sexual assaults, pathological lies and an absence of talent and worthiness permeates both at a cellular level. Yes but Kang is on my team and Kodos & co are just evil! Vote! Cheer for Hulk Hogan! Which flavour of total corruption do you want? Any of Trump's Republican challengers would have been better than him. Any of Biden's Democrat challengers would have been vastly better. Until there's an overwhelming movement to pick the candidate who is not actually bought and paid for (unless they're actually comparable to Stalin levels of evil) the whole thing is lost. Democracy was so hard won and is so very worthwhile. The end run around democracy has been spectacular in its success. I would have thought it impossible if i hadn't lived to see it.