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Thank you for insinuating the night crew is not just as capable as the day crew. It really makes it seem like you have never worked In a 24/7 industry

bryanlarsen 7y ago
I'm sure the night crew welders, operators and techs are top notch. Engineers, designers and managers who depend much more on communications and collaboration? They tend to cluster.
eloff 7y ago
With engineers, that may well be a fair assumption. Night shift is less desirable, therefore people with more options will be less likely to settle for it, therefore the better people are in the day shift. Unless this is like shift work where people rotate between day and night shifts - but that would be highly unusual for a company like spacex. Just playing devil's advocate, but the logic chain is plausible.
- kick 7y ago
  On the other hand, these are engineers you're talking about. They tend to lean more toward 'nocturnal' on average than people in most fields.
- have_faith 7y ago
  Perhaps reclusive people have more time and energy to dedicate to their craft increasing their skill level and propensity to work night shifts? I'm just spit-ballin'. Smart people seem to be very good at conceiving a plausible chain of logic for almost anything. Something Star Trek demonstrated well with the the Vulcans. I mean that as no snark towards yourself, it's just a subject I've been thinking about recently.
  - KarlKemp 7y ago
    I remember from my intro to neuroscience that people who have lost all emotions due to stroke or brain injury are usually incapable of making even the most minor decisions. They are given two options for a doctor’s appointment and just can’t make up their mind. I keep thinking about that anytime someone claims to have arrived at their strong-held opinions on purely “rational” arguments.
  - eloff 7y ago
    Haha, yeah I can rationalize almost anything and make it sound plausible. It's a talent of dubious merit. I think the take-away here is there's no reason to assume that both shifts would have equal skill - likely there will be some differences, and it's a question of how much and why. It would be odd if it turned out there was no difference at all.
- de_watcher 7y ago
  There are no shifts for engineers when it comes to testing events. From my experience they are usually all there. Yes, during the production process you've got shifts of workers/technicians/engineers. Testing: it's all engineers plus enough of technicians they like the most (by negotiating to shuffle around the shifts where possible). It's probably the same at SpaceX.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    So that falls under "they were using highly fatigued day crew", then?
    - de_watcher 7y ago
      Engineering is not like baking donuts. You don't even getting completely interchangeable "shifts".

bryanlarsen 7y ago

I'm sure the night crew welders, operators and techs are top notch. Engineers, designers and managers who depend much more on communications and collaboration? They tend to cluster.

eloff 7y ago

With engineers, that may well be a fair assumption. Night shift is less desirable, therefore people with more options will be less likely to settle for it, therefore the better people are in the day shift. Unless this is like shift work where people rotate between day and night shifts - but that would be highly unusual for a company like spacex. Just playing devil's advocate, but the logic chain is plausible.

kick 7y ago
On the other hand, these are engineers you're talking about. They tend to lean more toward 'nocturnal' on average than people in most fields.
have_faith 7y ago
Perhaps reclusive people have more time and energy to dedicate to their craft increasing their skill level and propensity to work night shifts? I'm just spit-ballin'. Smart people seem to be very good at conceiving a plausible chain of logic for almost anything. Something Star Trek demonstrated well with the the Vulcans. I mean that as no snark towards yourself, it's just a subject I've been thinking about recently.
- KarlKemp 7y ago
  I remember from my intro to neuroscience that people who have lost all emotions due to stroke or brain injury are usually incapable of making even the most minor decisions. They are given two options for a doctor’s appointment and just can’t make up their mind. I keep thinking about that anytime someone claims to have arrived at their strong-held opinions on purely “rational” arguments.
- eloff 7y ago
  Haha, yeah I can rationalize almost anything and make it sound plausible. It's a talent of dubious merit. I think the take-away here is there's no reason to assume that both shifts would have equal skill - likely there will be some differences, and it's a question of how much and why. It would be odd if it turned out there was no difference at all.
de_watcher 7y ago
There are no shifts for engineers when it comes to testing events. From my experience they are usually all there. Yes, during the production process you've got shifts of workers/technicians/engineers. Testing: it's all engineers plus enough of technicians they like the most (by negotiating to shuffle around the shifts where possible). It's probably the same at SpaceX.
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  So that falls under "they were using highly fatigued day crew", then?
  - de_watcher 7y ago
    Engineering is not like baking donuts. You don't even getting completely interchangeable "shifts".