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Well that's embarrassing. Could you imagine being the crew of the cruise ship and having to rescue the clowns that just tried to ram you?

lonelappde 7y ago
As I understand it, sailors have strong ethics because the sea is the common enemy of all. Even sailors on ships at war will rescue the enemy after incapacitating their boat.
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- nradov 7y ago
  In theory they're supposed to, but that kind of went out the window since WW2.
  - karatestomp 7y ago
    IIRC uboats were only “supposed” to sink ships if they could aid in rescuing the crew and passengers after... but gave that policy up when the Allies kept attacking them with aircraft while they were conducting rescue operations.
    - perl4ever 6y ago
      Did u-boats typically even have the capacity to transport the number of people on the ships they sank?
  - hanoz 7y ago
    Notably after a US bomber knowingly attacked a surfaced U-boat carrying survivors of the RMS Laconia on its foredeck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident
- cptaj 7y ago
  Yeah, but if you're a ship with a skeleton crew of civilians, you're going to think twice about rescuing a full compliment of soldiers from a dictatorship that just tried to sink you with no reason whatsoever.
  - lstodd 7y ago
    There can not be any thinking twice about pulling people from the water. Even Somali pirates were first pulled up from their junks, and only then the boats were used for target practice. EDIT: and they, being pirates, were subject to being killed on the spot. But still, the whole situation is hilarious.
  - dodobirdlord 7y ago
    I'm sure they had lifeboats.
toomuchtodo 7y ago
Rescue would likely be an upgrade from conditions in Venezuela for the Venezuelan Navy crew.
- jerzyt 7y ago
  Maybe that was the plan all along.
- whymauri 7y ago
  Military and law enforcement personnel tend to be pretty high up in the current hierarchy due to corruption and abuse of power i.e: they have easier access to food, for example. Not sure how that applies to the Navy, though.
a3n 7y ago
And then, full chutzpah, the rescued crew commandeer the cruise ship, having "boarded" it.
- camkego 7y ago
  The linked article doesn't seem to say anything like this, did I miss something?
  - a3n 7y ago
    Speculating what could happen after rescue.
firekvz 7y ago
They ran away, they didn't rescue them. Kinda shows that they might be on blame Ps: Venezuelan here and I hate my gov but this looks really shaddy
- dhosek 7y ago
  The account I read indicated that the cruise ship offered assistance, got no response and remained on the scene until the MRCC arrived.
- rdtsc 7y ago
  > They ran away, they didn't rescue them. They were rammed by this military boat, headed by what looks like a crazy captain. Would you have brought them on-board? They could have dropped an extra life-boat and called for help for them probably. But I can't entirely fault them for wanting to run away.
- t0mas88 7y ago
  Of course they moved to a safe position, they were under attack by a navy ship. What would you have done? And it wasn't just any navy, it was a Venezuelan navy ship, a country with erratic and unpredictable leadership.
- woodandsteel 6y ago
  So you're saying the navy vessel was both justified and acting in an intelligent manner when it rammed the cruise ship? My guess is you are really troller working for the Maduro regime.
antpls 7y ago
From the article : "Columbia Cruise Services says Resolute remained in the area until it was clear its services were not required to help in the rescue of the 44 crew members. It then continued on, as planned, to the Port of Willemstad in Curaçao." Then "Even if the cruise liner had deliberately sailed within 12 miles of Isla La Tortuga, it very likely would have been legally entitled to do so under the right of innocent passage, unless Venezuelan officials believe the ship of conducting some other prohibited activity."

lonelappde 7y ago

As I understand it, sailors have strong ethics because the sea is the common enemy of all. Even sailors on ships at war will rescue the enemy after incapacitating their boat.

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nradov 7y ago
In theory they're supposed to, but that kind of went out the window since WW2.
- karatestomp 7y ago
  IIRC uboats were only “supposed” to sink ships if they could aid in rescuing the crew and passengers after... but gave that policy up when the Allies kept attacking them with aircraft while they were conducting rescue operations.
  - perl4ever 6y ago
    Did u-boats typically even have the capacity to transport the number of people on the ships they sank?
- hanoz 7y ago
  Notably after a US bomber knowingly attacked a surfaced U-boat carrying survivors of the RMS Laconia on its foredeck. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconia_incident
cptaj 7y ago
Yeah, but if you're a ship with a skeleton crew of civilians, you're going to think twice about rescuing a full compliment of soldiers from a dictatorship that just tried to sink you with no reason whatsoever.
- lstodd 7y ago
  There can not be any thinking twice about pulling people from the water. Even Somali pirates were first pulled up from their junks, and only then the boats were used for target practice. EDIT: and they, being pirates, were subject to being killed on the spot. But still, the whole situation is hilarious.
- dodobirdlord 7y ago
  I'm sure they had lifeboats.

toomuchtodo 7y ago

Rescue would likely be an upgrade from conditions in Venezuela for the Venezuelan Navy crew.

jerzyt 7y ago
Maybe that was the plan all along.
whymauri 7y ago
Military and law enforcement personnel tend to be pretty high up in the current hierarchy due to corruption and abuse of power i.e: they have easier access to food, for example. Not sure how that applies to the Navy, though.

a3n 7y ago

And then, full chutzpah, the rescued crew commandeer the cruise ship, having "boarded" it.

camkego 7y ago
The linked article doesn't seem to say anything like this, did I miss something?
- a3n 7y ago
  Speculating what could happen after rescue.

firekvz 7y ago

They ran away, they didn't rescue them. Kinda shows that they might be on blame Ps: Venezuelan here and I hate my gov but this looks really shaddy

dhosek 7y ago
The account I read indicated that the cruise ship offered assistance, got no response and remained on the scene until the MRCC arrived.
rdtsc 7y ago
> They ran away, they didn't rescue them. They were rammed by this military boat, headed by what looks like a crazy captain. Would you have brought them on-board? They could have dropped an extra life-boat and called for help for them probably. But I can't entirely fault them for wanting to run away.
t0mas88 7y ago
Of course they moved to a safe position, they were under attack by a navy ship. What would you have done? And it wasn't just any navy, it was a Venezuelan navy ship, a country with erratic and unpredictable leadership.
woodandsteel 6y ago
So you're saying the navy vessel was both justified and acting in an intelligent manner when it rammed the cruise ship? My guess is you are really troller working for the Maduro regime.

antpls 7y ago

From the article : "Columbia Cruise Services says Resolute remained in the area until it was clear its services were not required to help in the rescue of the 44 crew members. It then continued on, as planned, to the Port of Willemstad in Curaçao." Then "Even if the cruise liner had deliberately sailed within 12 miles of Isla La Tortuga, it very likely would have been legally entitled to do so under the right of innocent passage, unless Venezuelan officials believe the ship of conducting some other prohibited activity."