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He's an SVP at Amazon... what does being an "Obama-era staffer" have to do with him supporting the company currently paying his paycheck? Not to mention he was

by tw04 7y ago

He's an SVP at Amazon... what does being an "Obama-era staffer" have to do with him supporting the company currently paying his paycheck? Not to mention he was Press Secretary for Obama, played literally no role in policy.

creddit 7y ago
It's part of the strategy of the far left to help push the Democratic Party further left by vilifying anything and everything associated with its party's center. EDIT: Adding that I really can't see, otherwise, how it's relevant.
- claudeganon 7y ago
  Carney stanning for a company trying to frame a black labor organizer with the “not articulate” dog whistle does enough of that work by itself. I don’t think they need any help from the “far left.”
  - tw04 7y ago
    Except Carney didn't say that. >“He’s not smart, or articulate, and to the extent the press wants to focus on us versus him, we will be in a much stronger PR position than simply explaining for the umpteenth time how we’re trying to protect workers,” wrote Amazon General Counsel David Zapolsky in notes from the meeting forwarded widely in the company.
    - claudeganon 7y ago
      Never said he said it. I said he’s defending a company whose taking this line to discredit Smalls. Go read my post again and Carney’s Twitter feed if you need further clarification.
  - creddit 7y ago
    Again, though, it's not really relevant that he worked as Obama's PR guy, right? I have no idea if he's dumb, this interview doesn't suggest so, but here's an interview[0] of him and he's definitely not particularly articulate in it. The concept of the "dog whistle" is pretty ridiculous. It makes it so that you literally can never have a black person be described as inarticulate regardless of reality. It's just another way to control speech. 0: https://youtu.be/15HUGc7R8hw?t=107 https://youtu.be/15HUGc7R8hw?t=107
notJim 7y ago
The democrats are/were historically the pro-worker party. Yet here we have a major player from a recent administration managing a PR strategy opposing worker organizing efforts. It should make one question whether that party is still run by people who support workers.
- tw04 7y ago
  But he wasn't a "major player" - he was a press secretary. While we can assume he's a Democrat, the role has nothing to do with policy and more-often-than-not is filled by someone who's just good at being a flak jacket. Scaramucci was Trump's Press Secretary - he also worked for the Obama and Clinton campaigns. Claiming his current worldview is in any way reflective of the Obama Administration is a reach... at best.
  - michaelsitver 7y ago
    Scaramucci was his comms director. Big difference. The position of press secretary is one of the most important in the West Wing (It's been diminished a bit in recent years, but there is absolutely a policy component).
- m0zg 7y ago
  They haven't been a pro-worker party for a couple of decades now. As exemplified by their stance towards globalization, protectionism, and illegal immigration. Their poorest, most pro-worker presidential candidate is a geriatric multi-millionaire with three houses, and the party perfers someone with dementia and deep ties to China even to him.
- Ididntdothis 7y ago
  "The democrats are/were historically the pro-worker party." This hasn't been true for a few decades. they are now the party of the well educated professional class.

by tw04 7y ago

creddit 7y ago

It's part of the strategy of the far left to help push the Democratic Party further left by vilifying anything and everything associated with its party's center. EDIT: Adding that I really can't see, otherwise, how it's relevant.

claudeganon 7y ago
Carney stanning for a company trying to frame a black labor organizer with the “not articulate” dog whistle does enough of that work by itself. I don’t think they need any help from the “far left.”
- tw04 7y ago
  Except Carney didn't say that. >“He’s not smart, or articulate, and to the extent the press wants to focus on us versus him, we will be in a much stronger PR position than simply explaining for the umpteenth time how we’re trying to protect workers,” wrote Amazon General Counsel David Zapolsky in notes from the meeting forwarded widely in the company.
  - claudeganon 7y ago
    Never said he said it. I said he’s defending a company whose taking this line to discredit Smalls. Go read my post again and Carney’s Twitter feed if you need further clarification.
- creddit 7y ago
  Again, though, it's not really relevant that he worked as Obama's PR guy, right? I have no idea if he's dumb, this interview doesn't suggest so, but here's an interview[0] of him and he's definitely not particularly articulate in it. The concept of the "dog whistle" is pretty ridiculous. It makes it so that you literally can never have a black person be described as inarticulate regardless of reality. It's just another way to control speech. 0: https://youtu.be/15HUGc7R8hw?t=107 https://youtu.be/15HUGc7R8hw?t=107

notJim 7y ago

The democrats are/were historically the pro-worker party. Yet here we have a major player from a recent administration managing a PR strategy opposing worker organizing efforts. It should make one question whether that party is still run by people who support workers.

tw04 7y ago
But he wasn't a "major player" - he was a press secretary. While we can assume he's a Democrat, the role has nothing to do with policy and more-often-than-not is filled by someone who's just good at being a flak jacket. Scaramucci was Trump's Press Secretary - he also worked for the Obama and Clinton campaigns. Claiming his current worldview is in any way reflective of the Obama Administration is a reach... at best.
- michaelsitver 7y ago
  Scaramucci was his comms director. Big difference. The position of press secretary is one of the most important in the West Wing (It's been diminished a bit in recent years, but there is absolutely a policy component).
m0zg 7y ago
They haven't been a pro-worker party for a couple of decades now. As exemplified by their stance towards globalization, protectionism, and illegal immigration. Their poorest, most pro-worker presidential candidate is a geriatric multi-millionaire with three houses, and the party perfers someone with dementia and deep ties to China even to him.
Ididntdothis 7y ago
"The democrats are/were historically the pro-worker party." This hasn't been true for a few decades. they are now the party of the well educated professional class.