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Based on this and all the other anecdotal studies plus all the people treated with it for other ailments, it seems fairly certain that at a minimum this treatme

by karl11 7y ago

Based on this and all the other anecdotal studies plus all the people treated with it for other ailments, it seems fairly certain that at a minimum this treatment is not causing more harm. Given that plus all the indications that it seems to help to some degree, we should be pursuing production scale of these drugs aggressively. It is very unfortunate that the media politicized this treatment in such a way that now everyone who dislikes Trump carries an initial bias against it.

starkd 7y ago
It's quite remarkable to see the media more focused on how they are supposed to oppose Trump rather than just reporting the news.
VBprogrammer 7y ago
To use a very celtic phrase, it's a shame Trump is such a gobshite he couldn't help himself but to promote this as a miracle cure before the science was settled.
orwin 7y ago
I'm not american and i really, really don't care about trump now (i did in 2017 when i wanted an internship in Ohio that was denied cause new policies and all that stuff but i eventually found something better, so i'm not angry about it). Antiviral drugs will always be given to late in this disease case, maybe it can reduce infectuosity but we don't know enough yet. Maybe giving it to everyone to prevent the disease before its even there could be helpfull, but if i had to take HCQ, i will have to stop taking my antihistamine drugs, and going into april/may, this is a big no for me. The fact that it can also reduce the autoimmune reaction is really interesting though, so maybe giving it to mild cases will prevent them to destroy their own cells, but this is also dangerous as the disease can cause myocard lesions (probably the autoimmune reaction, but we don't know yet). In any case, talking about it is useless before more data arrive: even if we could give HCQ to everybody, the lockdown is still necessary until the first wave decrease (at least in France). Don't forge an opinion on something this early, it will be hard to let it go if you're wrong, and being right early don't give you anything.

by karl11 7y ago

starkd 7y ago

It's quite remarkable to see the media more focused on how they are supposed to oppose Trump rather than just reporting the news.

VBprogrammer 7y ago

To use a very celtic phrase, it's a shame Trump is such a gobshite he couldn't help himself but to promote this as a miracle cure before the science was settled.

orwin 7y ago

I'm not american and i really, really don't care about trump now (i did in 2017 when i wanted an internship in Ohio that was denied cause new policies and all that stuff but i eventually found something better, so i'm not angry about it). Antiviral drugs will always be given to late in this disease case, maybe it can reduce infectuosity but we don't know enough yet. Maybe giving it to everyone to prevent the disease before its even there could be helpfull, but if i had to take HCQ, i will have to stop taking my antihistamine drugs, and going into april/may, this is a big no for me. The fact that it can also reduce the autoimmune reaction is really interesting though, so maybe giving it to mild cases will prevent them to destroy their own cells, but this is also dangerous as the disease can cause myocard lesions (probably the autoimmune reaction, but we don't know yet). In any case, talking about it is useless before more data arrive: even if we could give HCQ to everybody, the lockdown is still necessary until the first wave decrease (at least in France). Don't forge an opinion on something this early, it will be hard to let it go if you're wrong, and being right early don't give you anything.