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Excellent project, and glad 10 finally came through. I never buy a phone that isn't supported by LineageOS, and it's the first thing I install when I get a new

by brnt 7y ago

Excellent project, and glad 10 finally came through. I never buy a phone that isn't supported by LineageOS, and it's the first thing I install when I get a new (or old!) one. I see my Pixel is not yet supported though (by 17.1). Could not find a list of phones that should be getting support later on. Anyone know if I am missing something?

Scene_Cast2 7y ago
LineageOS's supported devices are typically a bit older (e.g. Galaxy S6 but not, say, the S10). But support will likely come after some time. Meanwhile, there's this new thing called Treble, where you can flash a generic ROM on any new Android phone. There isn't an official LOS Treble build (for various reasons), but it's a solution if you must have a 3rd party OS build.
- brnt 7y ago
  Well, my Pixel XL is a bit older, and I happily run 9/16.0. Just can't find if it's planned to be lifted to 10/17.1. I never buy one that can't run (any version) of LineageOS right now though. That's why I got this older Pixel in the first place. Its' the only way to get some sort of longterm updates and a degooglified Android.
  - _bxg1 7y ago
    OnePlus makes really good phones for good prices, and tends to have great support from Lineage. Only downside is that it's a Chinese brand. Of course you're replacing the OS wholesale, which would get rid of any traditional telemetry, but technically it's possible there's something nefarious in the firmware itself, depending on how paranoid you are.
- ATsch 7y ago
  > There isn't an official LOS Treble build (for various reasons) could someone share what those reasons are?
  - e12e 7y ago
    Looks like the gsi (general system image) that vendors need to boot to demonstrate treble compatability - is mostly tested for exactly just booting/starting. So any phone that supports treble will boot gsi/boot an image derived from gsi - but not all phones will work with gsi - for a meaningful definition of "work as a full android phone". In other words treble/gsi seems to be a bit of a half-measure - and if you "port" à given rom to treble/gsi - it still will only work on some subset of treble phones :'( This is what I gleaned from some searching, anyway: https://www.xda-developers.com/unofficial-lineageos-17-gsi-released-project-treble-compatible-devices/ https://www.xda-developers.com/unofficial-lineageos-17-gsi-r... (after first finding this, and being a bit confused): "Changelog 16 - Smart Styles, Treble is trouble and Omfg Oreo" https://www.lineageos.org/Changelog-16/ https://www.lineageos.org/Changelog-16/
    - zozbot234 7y ago
      There's also annoying variations in GSI's - you need separate images not just for 32-bit vs. 64-bit but for A-only vs. A+B boot support, and sometimes for different "base AOSP" releases - GSI's for devices that shipped with Aosp versions 8.x, 9.x, 10.x are not always guaranteed to work consistently.
- fmajid 7y ago
  The Pocofone F1 is really cheap and really good. The only downside is the lack of NFC. I got my dad one last year with LOS as replacement for his Windows Phone which is no longer supported by WhatsApp.
_bxg1 7y ago
Last I used Lineage (a couple years ago), device support was entirely community-driven. Basically someone has to come forward and say "I want to be the champion for device X", and then that person or Lineage had to have one of that device physically on-hand for testing, and then that person and any others who volunteer are responsible for porting each new version to that device and maintaining compatibility. So the spread of devices tends to be based on how popular/beloved that device is by the community. This can partly have to do with price/specs, but it also has to do with how easy it is to maintain (does it have a locked bootloader? is it available internationally? does it have weird, proprietary drivers that are hard/impossible to get working?). For example: the Samsung Galaxy S 3-5 are still supported. The S3 came out in 2012 (it was a great phone with an unlocked bootloader; I had one). On the other hand, I don't see any mainline Galaxies newer than the S5 on the device list. OnePlus tends to be well-supported. Nexus devices were well-supported, but perhaps the Pixels have gotten more locked-down? I haven't been keeping up with that sort of thing.
- tryptophan 7y ago
  >On the other hand, I don't see any mainline Galaxies newer than the S5 on the device list. They started locking their bootloaders, and nobody has been able to bypass the lock.
  - gnufx 7y ago
    That can't be right, as e.foundation sell S7 and S9 preloaded. I haven't done it, but flashing instructions are at https://doc.e.foundation/devices/starlte/install https://doc.e.foundation/devices/starlte/install for example.
    - tryptophan 7y ago
      The international Exynos version is crackable. The one that matters, the Snapdragon version that will work with US networks is not cracked.
      - 7y ago
thaumasiotes 7y ago
> Could not find a list of phones that should be getting support later on. Anyone know if I am missing something? Yes, the idea of supporting new phones on LineageOS is completely dead. You can find unofficial ROMs on the XDA forums, or you can use a phone that's had support for several years.

by brnt 7y ago

Scene_Cast2 7y ago

LineageOS's supported devices are typically a bit older (e.g. Galaxy S6 but not, say, the S10). But support will likely come after some time. Meanwhile, there's this new thing called Treble, where you can flash a generic ROM on any new Android phone. There isn't an official LOS Treble build (for various reasons), but it's a solution if you must have a 3rd party OS build.

brnt 7y ago
Well, my Pixel XL is a bit older, and I happily run 9/16.0. Just can't find if it's planned to be lifted to 10/17.1. I never buy one that can't run (any version) of LineageOS right now though. That's why I got this older Pixel in the first place. Its' the only way to get some sort of longterm updates and a degooglified Android.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  OnePlus makes really good phones for good prices, and tends to have great support from Lineage. Only downside is that it's a Chinese brand. Of course you're replacing the OS wholesale, which would get rid of any traditional telemetry, but technically it's possible there's something nefarious in the firmware itself, depending on how paranoid you are.
ATsch 7y ago
> There isn't an official LOS Treble build (for various reasons) could someone share what those reasons are?
- e12e 7y ago
  Looks like the gsi (general system image) that vendors need to boot to demonstrate treble compatability - is mostly tested for exactly just booting/starting. So any phone that supports treble will boot gsi/boot an image derived from gsi - but not all phones will work with gsi - for a meaningful definition of "work as a full android phone". In other words treble/gsi seems to be a bit of a half-measure - and if you "port" à given rom to treble/gsi - it still will only work on some subset of treble phones :'( This is what I gleaned from some searching, anyway: https://www.xda-developers.com/unofficial-lineageos-17-gsi-released-project-treble-compatible-devices/ https://www.xda-developers.com/unofficial-lineageos-17-gsi-r... (after first finding this, and being a bit confused): "Changelog 16 - Smart Styles, Treble is trouble and Omfg Oreo" https://www.lineageos.org/Changelog-16/ https://www.lineageos.org/Changelog-16/
  - zozbot234 7y ago
    There's also annoying variations in GSI's - you need separate images not just for 32-bit vs. 64-bit but for A-only vs. A+B boot support, and sometimes for different "base AOSP" releases - GSI's for devices that shipped with Aosp versions 8.x, 9.x, 10.x are not always guaranteed to work consistently.
fmajid 7y ago
The Pocofone F1 is really cheap and really good. The only downside is the lack of NFC. I got my dad one last year with LOS as replacement for his Windows Phone which is no longer supported by WhatsApp.

_bxg1 7y ago

Last I used Lineage (a couple years ago), device support was entirely community-driven. Basically someone has to come forward and say "I want to be the champion for device X", and then that person or Lineage had to have one of that device physically on-hand for testing, and then that person and any others who volunteer are responsible for porting each new version to that device and maintaining compatibility. So the spread of devices tends to be based on how popular/beloved that device is by the community. This can partly have to do with price/specs, but it also has to do with how easy it is to maintain (does it have a locked bootloader? is it available internationally? does it have weird, proprietary drivers that are hard/impossible to get working?). For example: the Samsung Galaxy S 3-5 are still supported. The S3 came out in 2012 (it was a great phone with an unlocked bootloader; I had one). On the other hand, I don't see any mainline Galaxies newer than the S5 on the device list. OnePlus tends to be well-supported. Nexus devices were well-supported, but perhaps the Pixels have gotten more locked-down? I haven't been keeping up with that sort of thing.

tryptophan 7y ago
>On the other hand, I don't see any mainline Galaxies newer than the S5 on the device list. They started locking their bootloaders, and nobody has been able to bypass the lock.
- gnufx 7y ago
  That can't be right, as e.foundation sell S7 and S9 preloaded. I haven't done it, but flashing instructions are at https://doc.e.foundation/devices/starlte/install https://doc.e.foundation/devices/starlte/install for example.
  - tryptophan 7y ago
    The international Exynos version is crackable. The one that matters, the Snapdragon version that will work with US networks is not cracked.
    - 7y ago

thaumasiotes 7y ago

> Could not find a list of phones that should be getting support later on. Anyone know if I am missing something? Yes, the idea of supporting new phones on LineageOS is completely dead. You can find unofficial ROMs on the XDA forums, or you can use a phone that's had support for several years.