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Google is shutting down Neighbourly
- GoOnThenDoTell 7y agoAdd it to the list
- schappim 7y agoGoogle also canceled april fools day.
- bryanrasmussen 7y agoThank you Google for hearing my plea! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22691443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22691443
- notRobot 7y agohttps://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://gcemetery.co/ https://gcemetery.co/
- Polylactic_acid 7y agoWhy does that website list angularjs as killed since it has just been updated with a slightly changed name. Might as well list old versions of android as killed by google.
- plorkyeran 7y agoAngular 2+ is an entirely different framework made by the same team which reused the name of their previous project for marketing purposes. It's like if Google released Fuchsia as Android 2.
- elcomet 7y agoIt's more like python 2 -> python3. It's very similar, but different enough to make the transition painful.
- un_montagnard 7y agoNever heard of Neighbourly before
- iamaelephant 7y agoCool man thanks for letting us know.
- tcbasche 7y agoAnd still I'm sure the anti-Google brigade will be out in full-force on this one
- EdwardDiego 7y agoWe have a same named social website in NZ, and it's doing well - but then, it's been advertised substantially. Do Google have a policy against advertising their own products or something?
- causality0 7y agoFrankly I think the only Google products that are safe from being Old Yeller'd are ones so ingrained in our society their attempted cancellation would likely result in an act of Congress. Have we started a deathwatch for Google Fi yet?
- toast0 7y agoAs google fi is mostly t-mo + sprint, and t-mo is now mostly t-mo + sprint, it would seem Google Fi's only selling point is it would be nearly impossible to have your phone number social engineered away, because Google support can't be reasoned with?
- caymanjim 7y agoFi has other compelling features. The biggest win for me is that it works worldwide for the same $10/gig I pay at home. I went to Cayman and Honduras last year, and it just worked; normally, I have to go buy a local SIM and prepay a few hundred dollars, but with Fi my total monthly bills were still only about $40.
- ehsankia 7y agoYour comment doesn't really make sense. They graduated from "Project Fi" to "Google Fi" just a year ago; why would they go all out and bring it into Google branding if it was on death watch? Neighborly, just like 99% of the stuff on Killed By Google, was free product that never left beta. It amazes me that people on HN still confuse paid products like Stadia and Fi with huge infrastructure and userbase with these small experimental Android apps...
- ajayyy 7y agoThey killed and deleted data from Google plus just recently. Tons of data gone forever. Google plus used to be integrated into every part of Google.
- jasonvorhe 7y ago
- gundmc 7y agoNow's the part where we all act outraged and link the "Killed by Google" website despite never hearing of let alone using this Beta app before.
- DevKoala 7y agoIt's worse this time. Google is failing silently.
- baron816 7y agoWhat do you mean? The link is a post to a warning about it shutting down. That’s not silent.
- jeppebemad 7y agoI think he is - jokingly- saying that now we don’t even get to see the product before it fails.
- BoorishBears 7y agoThe app has over 10 million installs on Android alone. Alphabet has 117 BILLION DOLLARS cash on hand. Why is it worth screwing over how ever few people were using this? Let's say a team to maintain an app like this cost 2 million dollars a year. For 1 ten thousandth of their cash of hand, they could fund this app for 5 times longer than Homo sapiens have walked on earth. 1.1 million years. Even if Google shuttering apps is just a meme, why is it even worth feeding the meme when you have such mind bending amounts of money and revenue? - Of course the answer people will reply with is "they have better things to do with the resources". That's the mentality that makes people not trust Google. When you have such mind bending amounts of money, something can be successful by the standards of mere mortals and an embarrassment to Alphabet. No one wants to rely on a company that sees your money as a joke and will gladly pull the rug under you. This app is a perfect example, what kind valuation do you think an app with 10 million installs for neighborhood engagement would see? We don't have DAUs, but you could literally value a listing with 10 million users in the millions.
- wyxuan 7y agoSeems like it was too similar to the nextdoor business model to succeed, which is a shame because nextdoor is just a green version of FB that lacks a lot of the features
- drewcoo 7y agoIronic timing. Keep your distance from those neighbors!
- slyall 7y agoI thought it was pretty popular in New Zealand. But the NZ company seems unrelated to Google. https://www.neighbourly.co.nz/about-us https://www.neighbourly.co.nz/about-us
- RestlessMind 7y agoI have started viewing Google as a miniature SV - a handful of "yugely successful" products, lots of wtf-inducing initiatives, talks about changing the world with a straight face while showing utter lack of imagination...so it is not really surprising that a lot of their initiatives fail, just like a lot of SV startups.
- Axsuul 7y agoUsually it's the most imaginative startups that are more likely to fail since they are often ahead of their time. Google has plenty of moonshot initiatives going for them that are full of imagination.
- heavenlyblue 7y agoBeing ahead of your time is not a sign of intelligence; it is a merely a sign of inability to adapt. The fact that being ahead of one’s time is often associated with misunderstood geniuses has more to do that those geniuses had severe lack of skills outside their brilliance
- jldugger 7y ago> I have started viewing Google as a miniature SV That's largely how execs describe it to the public, so... yea?
- alephnan 7y agoWhat I would like to see from Google's leaders: First, put a halt to launching new products. Two, take a cold hard look at existing products and prune them in one fell swoop, rather than this distributed system where projects scale up and down independently, spread across time. It seems individuals are incentivized to launch irregardless if anyone actually cared about that product launching. It's really hard for the orchestration node to say No to projects where there are so many other projects launching that it would seem unfair. Effectively, saying NO. Just my two cents.
- marto1 7y agoAnd why would they do any of that ? It doesn't pay to be creative or engineer driven when you're a monopoly. The ones that make the big bucks are sales and marketing. The other factor is cash reserves[1]. They can make 1000s of mistakes like this without any significant damage to their cash flow. Also assuming they are mistakes which we don't know, because we don't know their strategy. Finally, if you think the leaders don't know about this trend and/or killedbygoogle you're kind of naive. Actually with the amount of data they have there is a pretty high chance they can easily learn everything about you way before you can learn everything about them. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/1/20749831/alphabet-google-apple-cash-reserves-richest-company https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/1/20749831/alphabet-google-a...
- TheAceOfHearts 7y agoAlphabet employed a total of 118,899 people in 2019 [0], out of which 114,096 were at Google [1]. I've never worked at such a large tech company, but I imagine there's tons of challenges with coordination at their scale. I'd conjecture that Google behaves like a distributed system because that's how it actually operates internally. There probably isn't a single orchestration node responsible for all project launches. Heck, Google is so big that they're often in direct competition with their other services and products. For example, they're currently developing three different operating systems: Android, Chrome OS, and Fuschia. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google
- nevster 7y agoSite experiences a sudden influx of visits as people find out what they won't be missing...
- aaron695 7y agoI'd guess it was failing soon to be ended. Then Covid-19 hit and the data being shared on it was not great.
- shaneprrlt 7y agoNever heard of Neighbourly, judging by the spelling, perhaps it wasn't available in the US??? But I would suggest Nextdoor as an alternative if it's available in your region. A ton of people are active on it (at least here in Chicago and I assume most major metros), and it's been a great way to coordinate community efforts. I've seen it used to warn people of crime trends, and lately I've seen it used to coordinate efforts to help elderly people get groceries. Most of all, the discourse is incredibly positive and healthy compared to other social networks.
- jbarberu 7y agoGranted, I have not been on facebook in the past few years but Nextdoor looked pretty similar in level of rantiness and fearmongering/racism. Could be the people in Central Florida though, don't know. Was shocked by the amount of East Asian targeted racism on Twitter the other day, not surprised but shocked :(
- thasaleni 7y agoThe only difference between Google and any other private company is that Google publicizes it's "experiments" early, most companies have the same rate of experiments being closed or even higher, they just keep them private. It makes more sense when you look at Google as an R&D company, than a finished product company