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> Dr. Kooi Seng Chng: 8 months ago, the US was rated the most ready to face an pandemic. China was rated 51. Look at what has happened over the past 3 months.

> Dr. Kooi Seng Chng: 8 months ago, the US was rated the most ready to face an pandemic. China was rated 51. Look at what has happened over the past 3 months. US has become the new epicentre for covid19. How did that happen. It has all to do with mindset. Shockingly Americans don't believe in wearing masks..."

harry8 7y ago
To be fair to the us, the who is telling them not to wear masks. They should knowno better, sure. It's not like they slavishly follow the who.
- notauser 7y ago
  The U.S. did not use COVID-19 diagnostic tests produced by the WHO in favor of producing its own. So it could have deviated on mask guidance, too.
  - harry8 7y ago
    yeah "It's not like they slavishly follow the who" is what I said too. Probably should not have deviated there too, should have done it for masks. 0 for 2. How many lives will that cost?
- blub 7y ago
  Since when does the US give a crap about what some international organization has to say? Couldn't have started at a worse time to do that.
jdminhbg 7y ago
Pretty much the only sentence in this that isn't a lie is about Americans not believing in wearing masks. And even then, that's at least partly because the Chinese-controlled WHO told them not to.
unclebucknasty 7y ago
This is melodramatic America-bashing. The U.S. is nowhere near a third world country. This issue was due to the ineptness and hubris of the current administration, which defunded relevant initiatives, ignored the warnings, and refused to learn lessons from other nations' experience with the virus. Our medical system is fully capable of managing this with the proper preparation and supportive social policy. In fact, there is not a medical system in the world that could manage a pandemic of this scale without those things.
- bleah1000 7y ago
  I'm tired of seeing this bashing of the administration. Do I think they did a great job, heck no. But I think they are doing a relatively good job. It seems to be this prayer people keep repeating, the administration screwed this all up. People seem to want this to be true, want it to be all the current admin's fault. I mean there are only really two countries that did everything they could early, Taiwan and South Korea. And it's not clear that the US could have followed everything they did. I think some of the tracking Taiwan did would have definitely been privacy violations and completely illegal here. I mean, what evidence is there that having a dedicated pandemic team would have helped? This is the same government you just said was incompetent, so why would this have helped? The botched initial testing came from the CDC and FDA, so how did the admin make that happen? And the CDC would have been the same group that had a dedicated pandemic team. You might be able to point at some Trump appointee and say that person was directly responsible for the testing disaster, but I think that's unlikely. What if it turns out an Obama appointee caused the problem? I certainly wouldn't blame Obama for that. Also, the federal government is not supposed to be this dictator that controls everything in the US. Each state, each county is better equipped to figure out how to handle the crisis. The feds should be helping with logistics and guidelines, but what else? A nationwide lock down might not be good for the entire country. For example, a very rural state, might not really need a lock down. Or it might need a more measured lock down of a few very urban city centers. And would it even be legal for the federal government to order a lock down? As for leadership at the federal level, the coronavirus task force was created at the end of January. Should it have been created earlier? Maybe if the WHO and the CCP weren't lying their asses off about the disease it would have been. The only thing that allowed Taiwan to handle this better was that they knew the CCP would be lying, so when they heard about a new disease in December, they immediately went into disease protocol mode. Look, do I think the current US admin is handling this perfectly, no. But they are not doing this horrible job that many people seem to want them to be doing. Maybe if all you ever see is the negative articles you would believe that, but I would urge you to dig deeper. You don't even need to go to some fringe websites to see people saying the admin is doing a good job. And I don't mean looking at Fox News, I mean people on MSNBC and other left leaning networks are not all completely negative.
ur-whale 7y ago
> 8 months ago, the US was rated the most ready to face an pandemic. The US has a truly terrible tendency to start speeches about itself with "The US is the greatest country on earth when it comes to X ..." whatever X may be. To the point that I suspect even the people uttering it truly believe what they're peddling. If there's a country that has understood at a gut level that good marketing trumps honesty every time, it's the US. Unfortunately, good marketing and truth are very rarely compatible [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhYIng0tHxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhYIng0tHxA

harry8 7y ago

To be fair to the us, the who is telling them not to wear masks. They should knowno better, sure. It's not like they slavishly follow the who.

notauser 7y ago
The U.S. did not use COVID-19 diagnostic tests produced by the WHO in favor of producing its own. So it could have deviated on mask guidance, too.
- harry8 7y ago
  yeah "It's not like they slavishly follow the who" is what I said too. Probably should not have deviated there too, should have done it for masks. 0 for 2. How many lives will that cost?
blub 7y ago
Since when does the US give a crap about what some international organization has to say? Couldn't have started at a worse time to do that.

jdminhbg 7y ago

Pretty much the only sentence in this that isn't a lie is about Americans not believing in wearing masks. And even then, that's at least partly because the Chinese-controlled WHO told them not to.

unclebucknasty 7y ago

This is melodramatic America-bashing. The U.S. is nowhere near a third world country. This issue was due to the ineptness and hubris of the current administration, which defunded relevant initiatives, ignored the warnings, and refused to learn lessons from other nations' experience with the virus. Our medical system is fully capable of managing this with the proper preparation and supportive social policy. In fact, there is not a medical system in the world that could manage a pandemic of this scale without those things.

bleah1000 7y ago
I'm tired of seeing this bashing of the administration. Do I think they did a great job, heck no. But I think they are doing a relatively good job. It seems to be this prayer people keep repeating, the administration screwed this all up. People seem to want this to be true, want it to be all the current admin's fault. I mean there are only really two countries that did everything they could early, Taiwan and South Korea. And it's not clear that the US could have followed everything they did. I think some of the tracking Taiwan did would have definitely been privacy violations and completely illegal here. I mean, what evidence is there that having a dedicated pandemic team would have helped? This is the same government you just said was incompetent, so why would this have helped? The botched initial testing came from the CDC and FDA, so how did the admin make that happen? And the CDC would have been the same group that had a dedicated pandemic team. You might be able to point at some Trump appointee and say that person was directly responsible for the testing disaster, but I think that's unlikely. What if it turns out an Obama appointee caused the problem? I certainly wouldn't blame Obama for that. Also, the federal government is not supposed to be this dictator that controls everything in the US. Each state, each county is better equipped to figure out how to handle the crisis. The feds should be helping with logistics and guidelines, but what else? A nationwide lock down might not be good for the entire country. For example, a very rural state, might not really need a lock down. Or it might need a more measured lock down of a few very urban city centers. And would it even be legal for the federal government to order a lock down? As for leadership at the federal level, the coronavirus task force was created at the end of January. Should it have been created earlier? Maybe if the WHO and the CCP weren't lying their asses off about the disease it would have been. The only thing that allowed Taiwan to handle this better was that they knew the CCP would be lying, so when they heard about a new disease in December, they immediately went into disease protocol mode. Look, do I think the current US admin is handling this perfectly, no. But they are not doing this horrible job that many people seem to want them to be doing. Maybe if all you ever see is the negative articles you would believe that, but I would urge you to dig deeper. You don't even need to go to some fringe websites to see people saying the admin is doing a good job. And I don't mean looking at Fox News, I mean people on MSNBC and other left leaning networks are not all completely negative.

ur-whale 7y ago

> 8 months ago, the US was rated the most ready to face an pandemic. The US has a truly terrible tendency to start speeches about itself with "The US is the greatest country on earth when it comes to X ..." whatever X may be. To the point that I suspect even the people uttering it truly believe what they're peddling. If there's a country that has understood at a gut level that good marketing trumps honesty every time, it's the US. Unfortunately, good marketing and truth are very rarely compatible [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhYIng0tHxA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhYIng0tHxA