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https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534199808 https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534... Yes, shared by the Prime Min
by verytrivial 7y ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534199808 https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1244985949534...
Yes, shared by the Prime Minister, number and all. What a time to be alive.
- Traster 7y agoThat's not the only security leak in that photo.
- thinkingemote 7y agoWhat else?
- GordonS 7y agoFor one, Michael Gove's username appears to be the first part of an email address...
- billfruit 7y agoWhose role in the Cabinet is as the 'Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster', which today essentially means a minister without portfolio.
- deleted 7y ago[deleted]
- chaps 7y agoWhy is the exposing of a government employee's email address a security risk to you? Edit, because downvotes: government email addresses can be retrieved easily through public records laws, and is done routinely, and can easily be scraped or inferred. I've done both many, many times, and it's trivial.
- Traster 7y agoWell at the very least it presents a soft target for hacking into his personal email adddress (it's gmail not govenrment) and secondly, compromising it literally gives you access to dial into cabinet meetings.
- chaps 7y agoRead my edit. Email addresses can be received through public records requests routinely. It's a public record!
- FPGAhacker 7y agoPosting something like that on Twitter is like a dare.
- GordonS 7y agoThis email address could be at any provider - perhaps it's his personal gmail address, for example.
- chaps 7y agoAnd like one of the other comments in this chain points out - his personal email address was being used for government affairs, and that made it open to public records law suits. The public already has access to it.
- charlus 7y agoMichael Gove has an illustrious history with his private emails as well: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17235168 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17235168
- bilbo0s 7y agoWhy would his security people allow him to do that? Or do these guys just post this kind of stuff without even running it by their security folks? To me, this sounds like a security 101 type issue.
- roywiggins 7y agoHow would they stop him? Wrestle the phone out of his hands? He's in quarantine, anyway. Nobody is in the room with him. The current UK PM is not the type to ask experts about whether it's a good idea, anyway.
- Retric 7y agoQuarantine does not mean someone is alone. Just that their isolated from most of humanity.
- roywiggins 7y agoIt's not much of a quarantine if he's locked in with all his staff. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/boris-johnson-coronavirus-positive/2020/03/27/4604585e-7020-11ea-a156-0048b62cdb51_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/boris-johnson-co... > Johnson, on his doctor’s recommendation, has withdrawn into his chambers for seven days and will forgo all public appearances and in-person group meetings. He will have his food left at the door to his apartment, his aides said. > “He’s self-isolating in his flat,” said his official spokesman.
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- HenryBemis 7y agoOn a couple of pictures you can see balcony doors, house layouts, ceilings, vents, etc, doors. Every now and then CNN shares photos of the houses of rich and famous. They must be taking them from some magazine. Anyway, I remember looking at Cara Delevingne's amazing home, and I noticed that apart from walls with decorations, furniture, bathtub, etc there was NO view of doors, windows, balcony doors. Basically anything that would give away the location of the rooms (e.g. photo of bedroom with trees outside that would help identify floor and where in the building that room is). I am sure that these people have far more important things (documents) in their homes than Cara (but far worse taste).
- gonzo41 7y agoThe woman in the bottom left corner has the right idea. A white wall! And you're right about their houses. However with everyone home and the plods out on the empty streets. Now is not the time for a B&E
- ehsankia 7y agoDoes Zoom let you put a password on the room? Could that room have a password that is only known to the participants?
- afandian 7y agoYes and (in my experience) it displays it at the top of the screen!
- buboard 7y agono, but it gives the host the link to share WITH the password, so people sharing the link also share the password (encoded)
- afandian 7y agoAh, I suspected it was something like that.
- jpdus 7y agoThis is an optional setting.
- lancewiggs 7y agoIt was made the default a few weeks ago
- zulln 7y agoYes, and it did (according to somewhere else on the internet).
- mturmon 7y agoI wonder if the Zoom TOS allows them to monetize this kind of conversation in any way?
- bambataa 7y agoMore importantly, why does Liz Truss have a flagpole in her house?
- Doctor_Fegg 7y agoPork markets
- blahedo 7y agoPossibly a Zoom background?
- Thorentis 7y agoI'm surprised they're even allowed to use Zoom for a national cabinet meeting. Wouldn't the Gov have its own video chatting software that is self hosted?
- L-four 7y agoYeah, but you have take your computer to the IT team.
- Zenst 7y agoNumber 10 has had Video Conferencing since 1998 (I set it up with college and received first call from there), was H320 via ISDN2 affair and had dedicated black box encryption unit GCHQ supplied and dealt with. DOH (Department of Health) also had dedicated VC rooms as did all the regional officers and MCU bridging for multi point conferencing was outsourced when needed. All main DOH sites could do upto 384 with bonded ISDN line (UK ISDN was 64k per channel and seperate D channel, no bit stealing going on here). That without a doubt all changed many times and somewhat supprised they are using Zoom, and would of thought at least would of contracted to run their own private server connected via VPN. Very supprised and when American politicians all loved their blackberry's, they had their own dedicated servers they controlled access to, supplied by RIM. But the DOH and all the other government departments are entities unto themselves, and I'm not that up on anything the last couple of decades, but suspect that there isn't any common solution to enable what they need to do for remote working in isolation. I'm sure much will change after this. Also fairly sure GCHQ probably bashing their heads on the table. But I can see how they got to where they are, knowing aspects of government workings and departmental fencing, still - does kinda make you go WTF still.
- consultutah 7y agoI like that the Press HQ is not there... Makes perfect sense...
- softwaredoug 7y agoMaybe covid-19 will get them actually grok e2e encryption
- _-___________-_ 7y agoe2e encryption for multi-party videoconferencing that works well enough to use for something like this is basically an unsolved problem at this point.
- opless 7y agoHow would it be any different from any other e2e group chat?
- viraptor 7y agoYou have to send all available qualities of the stream yourself. Normally the server does the recompression for lower qualities. That means: more processing power and more bandwidth needed. Where normally you'd be able to send 720p, now your device may not be able to handle doing both that and lower quality (2-3 streams) at the same time. This multiplies again with screen sharing. Basically it's doable, but if you can prevent people complaining about the fans taking off and the CPU usage... why would you risk it?
- opless 7y agoUgh. Multiple compression streams? Why? 720p would be too much IMHO.
- jdietrich 7y ago>Multiple compression streams? Why? Zoom automatically switches between quality levels based on your connection speed, who's talking and the size of the viewport. 720p would look fairly rough when fullscreened on most non-mobile displays, but it's orders of magnitude more than necessary when viewed as a thumbnail on a mobile device. Making multi-user video work in a mostly seamless fashion is a surprisingly hard problem. Using a single stream would substantially degrade the experience, which may be a worthwhile tradeoff for high-security environments but certainly wouldn't be a worthwhile tradeoff for most users.
- blahedo 7y agoAlso interesting about that photo: Five of the 25 have portrait-oriented video feeds. Tbh this may make more sense for this kind of thing (shows more of the person rather than more of the space they're in) but I'm thinking about the hardware—am I correct in inferring that those five are zooming from their mobile? Do high-level UK cabinet ministers not have laptops?
- sc11 7y agoI'm speculating, but they might find it more convenient to use a separate device for the video chat? Especially if you're using your laptop a lot during the video call, it's quite convenient to have the chat open elsewhere.
- dexterdog 7y agoEsp considering I have had the zoom app completely crash my laptop multiple times.
- dhosek 7y agoGiven how cavalier zoom is about privacy and its history on the Mac, the only place I'd be willing to use it is on my phone or ipad where it's boxed in by Apple's restrictions and has undergone app review. Apple had to push a silent OS update to remove zoom's insecure secret web server.
- Camas 7y agoHe accidentally let slip that he lives at 10 Downing Street too.
- generationP 7y agoWhere's the troll? Ah, the guy at the top left.