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> If you know it's a fake then it takes away from the mystique. On the other hand, if you can only tell the difference between the real and the fake with a mic
by umvi 7y ago
> If you know it's a fake then it takes away from the mystique.
On the other hand, if you can only tell the difference between the real and the fake with a microscope, then "mystique" seems to be a simple placebo effect.
It's about time we stopped holding original-yet-mediocre works like the Mona Lisa on such a high pedestal just to create some kind of "mental high" that people are deriving from the placebo effect.
- NullPrefix 7y agoYou think that mentality is the reason for all the fake products on Amazon? Don't go blaming be if the customer can't tell the difference.
- ModernMech 7y agoIt may be a placebo effect, but I need the lie in order for it to work. I can't get the same thing by pretending it's real. My brain has to believe it's real.
- umvi 7y agoSo you admit you aren't actually enjoying the art itself, but are deriving a high from "witnessing an ancient piece of history" or "beholding the same matter someone famous once touched" or something?
- ModernMech 7y agoYeah. I like to think about ancient people and times and I draw a connection between objects and the past. If it was dug out of the ground after existing there for thousands of years I can do that. If the thing was made in a factory from a mold like every other thing in my house, then I have a hard time enjoying it. What's so wrong with that? I mean, what do you even mean by "enjoying the art itself"? You mean that the photons hitting my retina should have some sort of inherent enjoyment that is not processed by my brain? My brain needs context to derive that pleasure.
- jedimastert 7y agoWhat do you think art is? It's all in the head. Otherwise it's just paint on a canvas. It's not like there's some sort of objective truth to it.
- umvi 7y agoThere are many reasons people like art, but I think the principle reason is (or should be) admiration of skill. It's the same reason we like watching great athletes or musicians - we can recognize the amount of time and talent required to produce the end result ("wow, I couldn't do that, even if I tried!"). It's also the same reason many people have a visceral negative reaction to "art" that seemingly requires little to no skill (4'33", Pollock, etc.) - why admire something you could easily imitate with little-to-no training?
- krageon 7y agoIt's great that you have this view of art, but really figuring out a single principal reason is not something you're going to succeed at because people are different. Evidently even more different than you expected.
- umvi 7y agoPeople are different, yes, but also, people are the same. If you polled 1000 people about their views on art, I would wager >50% of them hold my view.