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I'm Stuck in a flat above heroin/crack abusers, they have dealers in all the time, abuse the victim card and keep getting away with it. Police, council.... all

by Zenst 7y ago

I'm Stuck in a flat above heroin/crack abusers, they have dealers in all the time, abuse the victim card and keep getting away with it. Police, council.... all just victimhood them and dispite over years and years of having hard evidence, they just ignore it. Equally the partner of the women had a business, working and she got him hooked on the stuff, she's abusive, killing him and nobody over the years seems to care as she is for want of a better word - classic dark triad case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad I've suffered abuse, homophobic abuse and as I'm not gay, it has been ignored. Even malicious gossip about me being a peado, again all ignored by the powers that be and I've done all the right things, tried so many times and been ignored. Since lockdown they have guests all the time, dealers, really nasty people and yet, i'm still ignored. Housing association in question even gone out their way to protect them and she has driven so many people out of their homes due to her abuse and still is allowed to get away with it as she excels at playing the victim, lies and I could list endless examples, it just frustrates me how these people keep on being allowed to carry on. So yes, very mindful of abuse, sadly the system seems to excel at enabling them. Oh as for police, even had instances of them not only doing nothing, but informing the dealers who informed upon them. Like passing on statements to her so she can show the dealers she didn't inform upon them and with that, lets them back in to the detrement of those who stood up. So nobody dares do anything as they have lost faith in the police and all support. I'm now at stage that I need a good investigative reporter as I have recordings and other proofs as the police have failed me so many times that I've lost faith in them completly. As I have all support systems. I have aspergers and have serious PTSD due to years of this abuse and need help getting the truth out there. Sorry if this not best place to talk about this, but I've tried and tried all the right avenues and only to be failed. Also sorry that I can't bestow all the details as it is so painful and triggers my PTSD but I'll try.

topbanana 7y ago
You need to get the hell out of there. It can't be good for your mental health
- Zenst 7y ago
  Tried, even have psychiatric report stating as much and yet those who are supposed to help have failed me. Tried everything and nothing. But it's not just me, I have some good neibours who are less able to defend themselves and even if I moved, somebod else would suffer, let alone my good neibours and if I move, they would get worse downstairs. Only way is to see justice done and then move, though believe me I've tried, been messed around, and I'd articulate the horrors and failings but only so much can empart at a time as it causes me great stress reliving it. I'm already a lost cause, I just need to make sure others don't suffer, that's the only thing that keeps me alive.
  - mnky9800n 7y ago
    Dude just move.
    - Zenst 7y ago
      I can't, tried believe me, sorry would expand upon the manitia but it just gets too much and now a shaking wreck and have to lay down as I have hypertension and sorry. I'll try and be back soon to reply and expand but it's just so painful and it's killing me. I'm sorry.
      - saiya-jin 7y ago
        So let's sum it up - its killing you, but you don't want to/can't leave because its killing others too. At the end, you will help nobody, the least yourself, and everybody will just suffer. Try pure logic on this problem, which doesn't seem like your current approach. Pure logic with result being improvement of your wellbeing, so you can help others. If you simply can't get those people out, then stop dreaming about getting them out, fruitlessly; solution is in some other action. If your country is in proper lockdown/quarantine, suck it up and focus on something positive till things ease a bit. I know, easy to say, but working solutions aren't magically easy.
        7y ago
wolco 7y ago
Hmm, lets see. You could go the opposite way. Advertise for them everywhere. Put up signs for cheap stuff in other turfs. Let the free market work. Now is the problem the people below or where you live? Getting rid of thek might bring someone worse. Sounds like you have grown out of the area.
- amelius 7y ago
  Putting up signs is not so simple with CCTV everywhere.
  - wolco 7y ago
    Was thinking in bathrooms vs polls.. less large signs but more scratching something out with a key. In places where people use the bathroom to shootup (targeted advertising works better with a better roi)
    - Zenst 7y ago
      Makeup of housing in the UK somewhat different to your vision alas. Don't get me wrong, I've done things and had some success. Was entire ground floor of the 6 flats all junkies, one I managed to re-educate, another I socially engineered away. 2 corrupt coppers removed. 4 Gangs removed Numerous habitual junkies - removed from area. 2 gangs removed from area via blackmail. Probably missing few. But I've not been idle and had some positive results, albeit using craft tricks, so bit grey legally but morally just. However the real issue does seem to be a police informer, did have some limited success last year, managed to socially engineer two gangs and with that, they ended up taking each other out and also saw the downstairs issue beaten up. That managed to give me a break but they always get back to the same old same and with that, the only way is to out them and the police handler for the shite they have caused. But for closure - I need them and the police handler publicly outed in a way that they can't cover and with that, need publicity to deal with them and in a way that sends a message to the police so they don't do it again. So yeah, messy, but need to end-game this for my own health and see it thru for closure and for my health overall. Hence, best solution would be a reporter I can trust and is respectable to traction this. That simple.
haolez 7y ago
Our current society worships victims, but unfortunately your kind of victim is not numerous enough to get mainstream attention.
- john_moscow 7y ago
  Interestingly enough, our society worships victims that either could not be helped, or that would take a lower-than-median place in the social ladder after the help arrived. It's like people feel better when they hear about someone who's life is more miserable than theirs. Asperger dude who could become extremely productive and wealthy once he assigns the right priorities to sleep, noise reduction, and seeing through other people's bullshit, doesn't fit this pattern at all.
  - Zenst 7y ago
    I had a good career, done some amazing things, but utterly shite art remuneration and got taken advantage of by many employers and mate-crime, also not a greedy person, and been told I'm too good natured for my own good, too intelligent for my own good and that's by many professionals and smart people, sadly that's all they could do beyond say that I've done all the right things and been failed. SLeep the issue, they live vampire hours and terrible flat for noise and with that, it's a slow death. When I accepted this place I asked: 1) I need a silent area at night 2) No heroin users as had issue in past I was lied to and suffered ever since, apparently downstairs is the biggest known crackhead heroin user in the area and been instrumental in bringing heroin into the area and with that, it's been downhill ever since at a time I didn't need it and now I'm mid 50's, burned out so many times, physical and mental health issues, I'm spent and never going to get back to full time work and even then. I have no stability in routine due to antisocial impacts that still happen to this day and....see other comments.
- gridlockd 7y ago
  People don't worship victims, they use victims as means to some end, like attaining political power or social capital. By extension, victims must stay victims to keep fulfilling that purpose.
john_moscow 7y ago
>So nobody dares do anything as they have lost faith in the police and all support. >I have aspergers and have serious PTSD due to years of this abuse and need help getting the truth out there. Here's one uncomfortable fact about our society that most people sort of feel, but don't usually express in words. Despite what people say, nobody gives a damn about others' problems. People will tell you all kinds of kind and supportive words, because it makes them feel good about themselves being so kind. Nobody will go an extra mile and risk being attacked/sued/defamed, unless the problem starts seriously affecting them. Please do yourself a favor and put together what other people said and what they have done so far, and you will find this as the most plausible model. If you truly have Aspergers, think of this purely logically. How much time/effort have you put into getting the truth out there? What if you put the same effort towards simply moving elsewhere? Make sure you understand what neighborhoods/apartment types will have lower probability of the same problem. Also think of renting a detached house in the middle of nowhere and working remotely. It could cost comparably to a downtown condo, but you will get priceless peace and quiet. It is sad, but there is no "getting truth out there" option. There is an option of fighting the windmills, hearing kind words from everyone, while still stuck in a lifestyle you hate. Or there's an option of being selfish, setting a goal that will help you and just you, and allocating every resource you have towards achieving this goal.
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- ip26 7y ago
  nobody gives a damn about others' problems The world is full of other people's problems, 7.8 billion lifetimes of them. It's not just narcissism if people are unable to confront it all at once. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion_fatigue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion_fatigue
- Zenst 7y ago
  I have thought this out way more over the years and trust me - the only way forward would be public humiliation from somebody that would traction and with that. I need a reporter who will listen and be listened too. I have 2 years worth of recordings and with that, many examples of police ineptness, abuse.... the lot and nobody takes me seriously. EVen played audio of her dealing, threateneing...and short version, they did nothing. Also many corrupt police, shocking but you do find out the hard way and so many inept police, shocking again, well less so in todays over-woke climate and sadly nothing constructive happens. However this whole coronavirus, well, sad when that is doing more than I could to highlight the issues and more so, makes it harder for them to get the drugs, so I'm taking solice and great comfort in their suffering currently, sad I know but if you know all I've had to endure, it's enabled me to cope more in talking about this and trying again. Heck, even dug out police home and private numbers and lets just say, they are useless, but hey, I feel better for it. Share the stress :).
gridlockd 7y ago
> I'm now at stage that I need a good investigative reporter as I have recordings and other proofs... No, you don't. Nobody cares about crackheads. Furthermore, nobody cares about your problems, either. Not the police, not the welfare services, not the media, not even the people on HN. Nobody is going to call to get the details on this story as it unfolds. You need to get out. Things may look hopeless. Perhaps they are, perhaps there's no way out. On the other hand, you almost certainly developed some form of learned helplessness, which is an actual delusion. You picked a bad time to get out. Nobody is hiring. You don't have the right skills. You don't know how to talk to people. Okay, so you're not going to get out. Make the best of it. Stop thinking about these people. They own your thoughts. They own you. They're probably not even aware of it. You just gave yourself away for nothing, to people who don't care. What a waste. Take ownership of yourself. Good Luck.
- Zenst 7y ago
  Sadly the only avenue would be public exposure of this and that alas would bury under current events. Also the process could very well kill me anyway due to stress/heart. But that's happening anyhow, I'm close to the edge and would rather go out knowing justice lives than not. Moving - see other responses, covered that. Only way forward would be a reporter who wants a big story or availing illegal avenues of which I have over the years, formulated many, including the perfect murder. But it's not as easy as it sounds and sadly hard to articulate all the aspects and details. But I will see the whole lots of those who failed me and these scum justiced, one way or another. It's my only way forward as even if could move, I'd have no closure and the horrors would live on, I need closure or I'm stuck living this wherever I went and sadly there is not option for that - see other reply's.

by Zenst 7y ago

topbanana 7y ago

You need to get the hell out of there. It can't be good for your mental health

Zenst 7y ago
Tried, even have psychiatric report stating as much and yet those who are supposed to help have failed me. Tried everything and nothing. But it's not just me, I have some good neibours who are less able to defend themselves and even if I moved, somebod else would suffer, let alone my good neibours and if I move, they would get worse downstairs. Only way is to see justice done and then move, though believe me I've tried, been messed around, and I'd articulate the horrors and failings but only so much can empart at a time as it causes me great stress reliving it. I'm already a lost cause, I just need to make sure others don't suffer, that's the only thing that keeps me alive.
- mnky9800n 7y ago
  Dude just move.
  - Zenst 7y ago
    I can't, tried believe me, sorry would expand upon the manitia but it just gets too much and now a shaking wreck and have to lay down as I have hypertension and sorry. I'll try and be back soon to reply and expand but it's just so painful and it's killing me. I'm sorry.
    - saiya-jin 7y ago
      So let's sum it up - its killing you, but you don't want to/can't leave because its killing others too. At the end, you will help nobody, the least yourself, and everybody will just suffer. Try pure logic on this problem, which doesn't seem like your current approach. Pure logic with result being improvement of your wellbeing, so you can help others. If you simply can't get those people out, then stop dreaming about getting them out, fruitlessly; solution is in some other action. If your country is in proper lockdown/quarantine, suck it up and focus on something positive till things ease a bit. I know, easy to say, but working solutions aren't magically easy.
      - 7y ago

wolco 7y ago

Hmm, lets see. You could go the opposite way. Advertise for them everywhere. Put up signs for cheap stuff in other turfs. Let the free market work. Now is the problem the people below or where you live? Getting rid of thek might bring someone worse. Sounds like you have grown out of the area.

amelius 7y ago
Putting up signs is not so simple with CCTV everywhere.
- wolco 7y ago
  Was thinking in bathrooms vs polls.. less large signs but more scratching something out with a key. In places where people use the bathroom to shootup (targeted advertising works better with a better roi)
  - Zenst 7y ago
    Makeup of housing in the UK somewhat different to your vision alas. Don't get me wrong, I've done things and had some success. Was entire ground floor of the 6 flats all junkies, one I managed to re-educate, another I socially engineered away. 2 corrupt coppers removed. 4 Gangs removed Numerous habitual junkies - removed from area. 2 gangs removed from area via blackmail. Probably missing few. But I've not been idle and had some positive results, albeit using craft tricks, so bit grey legally but morally just. However the real issue does seem to be a police informer, did have some limited success last year, managed to socially engineer two gangs and with that, they ended up taking each other out and also saw the downstairs issue beaten up. That managed to give me a break but they always get back to the same old same and with that, the only way is to out them and the police handler for the shite they have caused. But for closure - I need them and the police handler publicly outed in a way that they can't cover and with that, need publicity to deal with them and in a way that sends a message to the police so they don't do it again. So yeah, messy, but need to end-game this for my own health and see it thru for closure and for my health overall. Hence, best solution would be a reporter I can trust and is respectable to traction this. That simple.

haolez 7y ago

Our current society worships victims, but unfortunately your kind of victim is not numerous enough to get mainstream attention.

john_moscow 7y ago
Interestingly enough, our society worships victims that either could not be helped, or that would take a lower-than-median place in the social ladder after the help arrived. It's like people feel better when they hear about someone who's life is more miserable than theirs. Asperger dude who could become extremely productive and wealthy once he assigns the right priorities to sleep, noise reduction, and seeing through other people's bullshit, doesn't fit this pattern at all.
- Zenst 7y ago
  I had a good career, done some amazing things, but utterly shite art remuneration and got taken advantage of by many employers and mate-crime, also not a greedy person, and been told I'm too good natured for my own good, too intelligent for my own good and that's by many professionals and smart people, sadly that's all they could do beyond say that I've done all the right things and been failed. SLeep the issue, they live vampire hours and terrible flat for noise and with that, it's a slow death. When I accepted this place I asked: 1) I need a silent area at night 2) No heroin users as had issue in past I was lied to and suffered ever since, apparently downstairs is the biggest known crackhead heroin user in the area and been instrumental in bringing heroin into the area and with that, it's been downhill ever since at a time I didn't need it and now I'm mid 50's, burned out so many times, physical and mental health issues, I'm spent and never going to get back to full time work and even then. I have no stability in routine due to antisocial impacts that still happen to this day and....see other comments.
gridlockd 7y ago
People don't worship victims, they use victims as means to some end, like attaining political power or social capital. By extension, victims must stay victims to keep fulfilling that purpose.

john_moscow 7y ago

>So nobody dares do anything as they have lost faith in the police and all support. >I have aspergers and have serious PTSD due to years of this abuse and need help getting the truth out there. Here's one uncomfortable fact about our society that most people sort of feel, but don't usually express in words. Despite what people say, nobody gives a damn about others' problems. People will tell you all kinds of kind and supportive words, because it makes them feel good about themselves being so kind. Nobody will go an extra mile and risk being attacked/sued/defamed, unless the problem starts seriously affecting them. Please do yourself a favor and put together what other people said and what they have done so far, and you will find this as the most plausible model. If you truly have Aspergers, think of this purely logically. How much time/effort have you put into getting the truth out there? What if you put the same effort towards simply moving elsewhere? Make sure you understand what neighborhoods/apartment types will have lower probability of the same problem. Also think of renting a detached house in the middle of nowhere and working remotely. It could cost comparably to a downtown condo, but you will get priceless peace and quiet. It is sad, but there is no "getting truth out there" option. There is an option of fighting the windmills, hearing kind words from everyone, while still stuck in a lifestyle you hate. Or there's an option of being selfish, setting a goal that will help you and just you, and allocating every resource you have towards achieving this goal.

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ip26 7y ago
nobody gives a damn about others' problems The world is full of other people's problems, 7.8 billion lifetimes of them. It's not just narcissism if people are unable to confront it all at once. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion_fatigue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassion_fatigue
Zenst 7y ago
I have thought this out way more over the years and trust me - the only way forward would be public humiliation from somebody that would traction and with that. I need a reporter who will listen and be listened too. I have 2 years worth of recordings and with that, many examples of police ineptness, abuse.... the lot and nobody takes me seriously. EVen played audio of her dealing, threateneing...and short version, they did nothing. Also many corrupt police, shocking but you do find out the hard way and so many inept police, shocking again, well less so in todays over-woke climate and sadly nothing constructive happens. However this whole coronavirus, well, sad when that is doing more than I could to highlight the issues and more so, makes it harder for them to get the drugs, so I'm taking solice and great comfort in their suffering currently, sad I know but if you know all I've had to endure, it's enabled me to cope more in talking about this and trying again. Heck, even dug out police home and private numbers and lets just say, they are useless, but hey, I feel better for it. Share the stress :).

gridlockd 7y ago

> I'm now at stage that I need a good investigative reporter as I have recordings and other proofs... No, you don't. Nobody cares about crackheads. Furthermore, nobody cares about your problems, either. Not the police, not the welfare services, not the media, not even the people on HN. Nobody is going to call to get the details on this story as it unfolds. You need to get out. Things may look hopeless. Perhaps they are, perhaps there's no way out. On the other hand, you almost certainly developed some form of learned helplessness, which is an actual delusion. You picked a bad time to get out. Nobody is hiring. You don't have the right skills. You don't know how to talk to people. Okay, so you're not going to get out. Make the best of it. Stop thinking about these people. They own your thoughts. They own you. They're probably not even aware of it. You just gave yourself away for nothing, to people who don't care. What a waste. Take ownership of yourself. Good Luck.

Zenst 7y ago
Sadly the only avenue would be public exposure of this and that alas would bury under current events. Also the process could very well kill me anyway due to stress/heart. But that's happening anyhow, I'm close to the edge and would rather go out knowing justice lives than not. Moving - see other responses, covered that. Only way forward would be a reporter who wants a big story or availing illegal avenues of which I have over the years, formulated many, including the perfect murder. But it's not as easy as it sounds and sadly hard to articulate all the aspects and details. But I will see the whole lots of those who failed me and these scum justiced, one way or another. It's my only way forward as even if could move, I'd have no closure and the horrors would live on, I need closure or I'm stuck living this wherever I went and sadly there is not option for that - see other reply's.