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Rolesia – Virtual Macroeconomic Simulator Game

63 points by dizzydiz 7y ago

eatonphil 7y ago
Great to see more of these. Here are a few games/simulators I've played where you act as a central bank and try to control inflation, unemployment, and fed fund rate: https://www.sffed-education.org/chairthefed/ https://www.sffed-education.org/chairthefed/ https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/educational-games/economia/html/economia.en.html https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/educational-games/... (requires Flash)
- diydsp 7y ago
  here's a related one, a business startup simulator. https://forio.com/simulate/mit/cleanstart/simulation/login.html#page=overview https://forio.com/simulate/mit/cleanstart/simulation/login.h...
- chrisco255 7y ago
  Does the game always end in an unsustainable explosion of debt that crashes the central bank no matter what you do?
  - eatonphil 7y ago
    I lost for every reason over the times I played. I thought it illustrated the concepts interacting well though.
7thaccount 7y ago
Anyone ever use this on HN with insight?
SubiculumCode 7y ago
My issue with such simulations, and I am no expert, is that they encode a lot of unproven assumptions about the nature of money, the effect of money printing, etc. If those assumptions are wrong, then the simulations reinforce those erroneous assumptions in the minds of those who run the simulation. I would like to have control of a currency in a popular MMORPG to run experiments.
- lainga 7y ago
  Ever studied how economies have behaved in real MMOs?
- littlestymaar 7y ago
  Not an MMO but Yanis Varoufakis (former Greek Finance Ministry) did this for Valve a few years ago : https://www.businessinsider.com/yanis-varoufakis-valve-game-economy-greek-finance-2015-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/yanis-varoufakis-valve-game-...
- neilwilson 7y ago
  That’s something I’m working on at the moment - which is to build a tool that models individual as agents and how a banking system actually operates. The “variables” then arise as an emergent property naturally. And it’s a good opportunity to play with Elm. https://github.com/newwayland https://github.com/newwayland
- masa331 7y ago
  heard about EVE online? Not sure about currency itself but markets are really players driven
amelius 7y ago
How accurate/realistic is this?
arkanciscan 7y ago
Boringest game ever!
grenoire 7y ago
Quick plug for Miniconomy (https://www.miniconomy.com/ https://www.miniconomy.com/), a lighter, more gamey game. It's quite fun, and focuses more on the microeconomic (in fact, nanoeconomic, perhaps?) mechanics of the economy; trading, shops, unit costs, game theory. Give it a shot! After its heyday, it could use some fresh blood.

63 points by dizzydiz 7y ago

Great to see more of these. Here are a few games/simulators I've played where you act as a central bank and try to control inflation, unemployment, and fed fund rate: https://www.sffed-education.org/chairthefed/ https://www.sffed-education.org/chairthefed/ https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/educational-games/economia/html/economia.en.html https://www.ecb.europa.eu/ecb/educational/educational-games/... (requires Flash)

diydsp 7y ago
here's a related one, a business startup simulator. https://forio.com/simulate/mit/cleanstart/simulation/login.html#page=overview https://forio.com/simulate/mit/cleanstart/simulation/login.h...
chrisco255 7y ago
Does the game always end in an unsustainable explosion of debt that crashes the central bank no matter what you do?
- eatonphil 7y ago
  I lost for every reason over the times I played. I thought it illustrated the concepts interacting well though.

7thaccount 7y ago

Anyone ever use this on HN with insight?

SubiculumCode 7y ago

My issue with such simulations, and I am no expert, is that they encode a lot of unproven assumptions about the nature of money, the effect of money printing, etc. If those assumptions are wrong, then the simulations reinforce those erroneous assumptions in the minds of those who run the simulation. I would like to have control of a currency in a popular MMORPG to run experiments.

lainga 7y ago
Ever studied how economies have behaved in real MMOs?
littlestymaar 7y ago
Not an MMO but Yanis Varoufakis (former Greek Finance Ministry) did this for Valve a few years ago : https://www.businessinsider.com/yanis-varoufakis-valve-game-economy-greek-finance-2015-2 https://www.businessinsider.com/yanis-varoufakis-valve-game-...
neilwilson 7y ago
That’s something I’m working on at the moment - which is to build a tool that models individual as agents and how a banking system actually operates. The “variables” then arise as an emergent property naturally. And it’s a good opportunity to play with Elm. https://github.com/newwayland https://github.com/newwayland
masa331 7y ago
heard about EVE online? Not sure about currency itself but markets are really players driven

amelius 7y ago

How accurate/realistic is this?

arkanciscan 7y ago

Boringest game ever!

grenoire 7y ago

Quick plug for Miniconomy (https://www.miniconomy.com/ https://www.miniconomy.com/), a lighter, more gamey game. It's quite fun, and focuses more on the microeconomic (in fact, nanoeconomic, perhaps?) mechanics of the economy; trading, shops, unit costs, game theory. Give it a shot! After its heyday, it could use some fresh blood.