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We use too much plastic, too casually, wastefully, with eventual results of microplastic and carbon release into the atmosphere. I would not weep in the least i
by JulianMorrison 7y ago
We use too much plastic, too casually, wastefully, with eventual results of microplastic and carbon release into the atmosphere. I would not weep in the least if this stuff blew around world-over and forced us to change our behaviour.
- TausAmmer 7y agoJust like woo flu
- holoduke 7y agoI think you generalize it too much. There are many different plastics with many different properties. Some will degrade in a few years, others take a thousand years. Some degrade to micro particles floating in our seas for a long time. Others do not and can be even eaten.
- shawnz 7y agoSome usages of plastics are essential. What about in medicine for example?
- MaxBarraclough 7y agoRight, exactly. A runaway bacterium that ate medical equipment, electronic equipment, industrial equipment, vehicles, food packaging... that would be a Bad Thing. It would mean an end to much of the modern world. I'm reminded of a reddit discussion on how awful it would be if a coronal mass ejection event destroyed all electronics on Earth. They were lamenting how tragic the loss of Netflix would be given the current lock-down, oblivious to that it would presumably result in society collapsing, with millions or billions dying in the ensuing famine.
- imtringued 7y agoBacteria fail to eat our organic wooden houses.
- MaxBarraclough 7y agoWhat's your point? We're talking about a hypothetical.
- sgc 7y agoSure they do, it's a major repair bill for many people. If we wind up with critical infrastructure that was previously stable randomly rotting, it will likely disrupt our current uptime rates, require expensive preventative measures and repairs, and in the end limit access to services due to the added costs. The dangers of hidden rot to electrical lines in buildings is one of the scariest possibilities.
- tryptophan 7y agoThats because the wood is treated with lots of chemicals. We would need to start treating plastics with these chemicals, creating potentially toxic plastics, which is not a good thing because it is very hard to test chemicals for toxicity and much of our food is stored in plastics.
- xyzzyz 7y agoMost of the wood used in house construction is not treated with anything. Only the stuff that touches soil, foundations, or is exposed to elements is. Unless you use real wood siding, that’ll be less than 5% of all lumber used. It doesnt decay, because it’s kept dry, and microorganisms arent very good at decomposing dry wood.
- ip26 7y agoOn the one hand I understand what you are saying, but on the other hand we've only had good plastics for a couple decades.
- MaxBarraclough 7y agoThat's not relevant. We know it's possible to build a society with no plastics, but the question is how much harm it would do if plastics suddenly started to rapidly decay. We've only had widespread electronics for a handful of decades, but if we lost it overnight, we'd be unable to produce and distribute food at the necessary scale. Restoring the global economy wouldn't even be on the horizon, we'd be too busy dying of famine. We've only had the internal combustion engine for a handful of decades, but if we lost it overnight we'd be similarly ruined. If the bacteria only slowly ate plastics, we wouldn't be doomed, it would just make things more costly, as with way rust and rot.
- narag 7y agoWater, gas, sewage, electricity and telecom lines are conducted/coated with PET. You would weep.
- baq 7y agoyou sir have won the understatement of the thread award. i'd literally be flooded with shit if something ate my plumbing, which likely means dead. that is, unless the isolation of electric cabling wouldn't burn me alive first. weep isn't really on the TODO list in that scenario. covid is peanuts in comparison.
- baggy_trough 7y agoIt would be wasteful to have to replace almost all vehicles, appliances, computers, and so on.