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syphilis was also caused by globalization! i hope many travel restrictions become permanent. ban cruises, make tourism difficult and expensive, cut off travel

syphilis was also caused by globalization! i hope many travel restrictions become permanent. ban cruises, make tourism difficult and expensive, cut off travel totally between the hemispheres. nature is being completely destroyed by human activity, this is an opportunity to reverse it.

Dylan16807 7y ago
If you're worried about the environment you can just add a carbon recapture tax to gas. Banning travel between large areas is ridiculous and wouldn't happen. Especially when a policy of quarantine during outbreaks would be equally effective with a vastly smaller cost.
- Retric 7y ago
  Quarantine completely failed to prevent what was a highly localized disease globally in 2 months. We need to accept it’s simply ineffective across international borders unless draconian measures are applied before they seem required. We might get through this with 100,000 people dying globally or 100,000,000 it’s completely unknown at this point. But, should the second happen expect some significant changes to happen for years if not decades. PS: China’s case fatality rate broke 4%, though they likely undercounted cases by ~50% if not more.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    What country even quarantined everyone coming in on a plane? I might have been unclear, but I was suggesting quarantine for everyone coming in, as an alternative to banning travel forever. Quarantine set up once you already have an outbreak is uh, a different matter.
    - Retric 7y ago
      Internal travel was suspended between several countries, though far to late to make a significant difference. A partial list: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/index.html https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/i... Saying they waited to long is true, but simply means it fails due to politics. Edit: NM, misunderstood what you where referring to.
      - Dylan16807 7y ago
        Yeah, far too late. I mean the equivalent of locking things down in January, not March. A total travel ban would also fail due to politics, so that's not a really helpful criteria.
- arcadeparade 7y ago
  I think the list of things that people believe are 'ridiculous and would never happen' has greatly reduced in size in the last few weeks. Also, there's a lot more to environmental destruction than excess carbon.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    Outside of fuel and labor, the resources spent to enable travel are quite minor. I don't think trying to stop carbon-neutral travel helps the environment in a meaningful way.

Dylan16807 7y ago

If you're worried about the environment you can just add a carbon recapture tax to gas. Banning travel between large areas is ridiculous and wouldn't happen. Especially when a policy of quarantine during outbreaks would be equally effective with a vastly smaller cost.

Retric 7y ago
Quarantine completely failed to prevent what was a highly localized disease globally in 2 months. We need to accept it’s simply ineffective across international borders unless draconian measures are applied before they seem required. We might get through this with 100,000 people dying globally or 100,000,000 it’s completely unknown at this point. But, should the second happen expect some significant changes to happen for years if not decades. PS: China’s case fatality rate broke 4%, though they likely undercounted cases by ~50% if not more.
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  What country even quarantined everyone coming in on a plane? I might have been unclear, but I was suggesting quarantine for everyone coming in, as an alternative to banning travel forever. Quarantine set up once you already have an outbreak is uh, a different matter.
  - Retric 7y ago
    Internal travel was suspended between several countries, though far to late to make a significant difference. A partial list: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/index.html https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/i... Saying they waited to long is true, but simply means it fails due to politics. Edit: NM, misunderstood what you where referring to.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      Yeah, far too late. I mean the equivalent of locking things down in January, not March. A total travel ban would also fail due to politics, so that's not a really helpful criteria.
arcadeparade 7y ago
I think the list of things that people believe are 'ridiculous and would never happen' has greatly reduced in size in the last few weeks. Also, there's a lot more to environmental destruction than excess carbon.
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  Outside of fuel and labor, the resources spent to enable travel are quite minor. I don't think trying to stop carbon-neutral travel helps the environment in a meaningful way.