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> after all, globalization is one of the main factors why we're experiencing this deadly pandemic now Not so. Pandemics travelled around the world before globa
by graeme 7y ago
> after all, globalization is one of the main factors why we're experiencing this deadly pandemic now
Not so. Pandemics travelled around the world before globalization. The black death, smallpox in the americas, syphllis.
This just increases the speed.
- jfk13 7y agoSpeed is, however, an important factor in the severity of the impact.
- graeme 7y agoIn a given area, yes. But with globalization we also got forewarning, and information from those in earlier areas. Under a less intertwined system, this likely would have spread heavily within each area, and that area would have little info form outside on what to do. Every place a potential Wuhan.
- arcadeparade 7y agosyphilis was also caused by globalization! i hope many travel restrictions become permanent. ban cruises, make tourism difficult and expensive, cut off travel totally between the hemispheres. nature is being completely destroyed by human activity, this is an opportunity to reverse it.
- Dylan16807 7y agoIf you're worried about the environment you can just add a carbon recapture tax to gas. Banning travel between large areas is ridiculous and wouldn't happen. Especially when a policy of quarantine during outbreaks would be equally effective with a vastly smaller cost.
- Retric 7y agoQuarantine completely failed to prevent what was a highly localized disease globally in 2 months. We need to accept it’s simply ineffective across international borders unless draconian measures are applied before they seem required. We might get through this with 100,000 people dying globally or 100,000,000 it’s completely unknown at this point. But, should the second happen expect some significant changes to happen for years if not decades. PS: China’s case fatality rate broke 4%, though they likely undercounted cases by ~50% if not more.
- Dylan16807 7y agoWhat country even quarantined everyone coming in on a plane? I might have been unclear, but I was suggesting quarantine for everyone coming in, as an alternative to banning travel forever. Quarantine set up once you already have an outbreak is uh, a different matter.
- Retric 7y agoInternal travel was suspended between several countries, though far to late to make a significant difference. A partial list: https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/index.html https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/coronavirus-travel-bans/i... Saying they waited to long is true, but simply means it fails due to politics. Edit: NM, misunderstood what you where referring to.
- Dylan16807 7y agoYeah, far too late. I mean the equivalent of locking things down in January, not March. A total travel ban would also fail due to politics, so that's not a really helpful criteria.
- arcadeparade 7y agoI think the list of things that people believe are 'ridiculous and would never happen' has greatly reduced in size in the last few weeks. Also, there's a lot more to environmental destruction than excess carbon.
- Dylan16807 7y agoOutside of fuel and labor, the resources spent to enable travel are quite minor. I don't think trying to stop carbon-neutral travel helps the environment in a meaningful way.
- jayd16 7y agoI'm not sure modern travel and globalization are the same thing. It only took a few travelers to spread to every state in the union. That doesn't have anything to do with global supply chians.