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Samsung Begins Mass Production of 512GB EUFS 3.1
- jolmg 7y agoSo, this is the first I've heard of UFS, and I'm wondering... what's with the fish fin on the cards? If the point is to prevent it being accidentally inserted in a microSD slot, couldn't they have just used a slightly different size, like a millimeter wider, and keep a rectangular shape?
- kevin_thibedeau 7y agoIt keeps microSDs from fitting into a UFS only slot. They won't work in a microSD only slot because the data pins are moved to a new row.
- jolmg 7y ago> It keeps microSDs from fitting into a UFS only slot. Did you mean that backwards? If a microSD doesn't have fins and the slot has additional space for fins, how would it prevent the insertion?
- kevin_thibedeau 7y agoThe fins coincide with the notches on the microSD. Tray type slots can have a UFS only outline. Those without a tray will need a barrier that only permits the rounded fin to enter. https://www.lovemysurface.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/ufs_card.jpg https://www.lovemysurface.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/ufs...
- jolmg 7y agoOh! Looking at them side-to-side like that, it makes a lot more sense.
- TazeTSchnitzel 7y agoBeing visually distinctive is important, no?
- jolmg 7y agoWell, I assume the front of UFS cards would say "UFS" instead of "MicroSD", and the back would look different because of the pins. Also, having a rectangle of different dimensions would also be visually distinctive, and I think that's always been the standard way to differentiate. That's how one has always been able to differentiate between CompactFlash (CF), Memory Stick PRO, Memory Stick PRO Duo, SecureDigital (SD), etc. Why is there now a need to have non-rectangular cards with a weird organic shape on it? EDIT: I see now that the fin is not like an appendage added to the microSD form factor, but rather a subtraction from its shape. The form factor makes a lot more sense after seeing the image shared by kevin_thibedeau.
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- nrp 7y agoThe shape of MicroSD cards are presumably also covered by design patents from the SD Association. The design and dimensions are similar out of an intent to enable UFS/MicroSD combo receptacles (which all UFS receptacles currently available are).
- mrfusion 7y agoSo what does this mean to a grandfather with an iPhone?
- pkaye 7y agoI don't think Apple uses UFS storage on a iPhone. They do their own thing.
- dzhiurgis 7y agoI wonder where's Apples bottlenecks are. Transfers with USB-C cables takes ages (USB2). AirDrop occasionally removes live photos, converts into different formats and is very manual step. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's not. iCloud works so-so. Order of magnitude slower when compared with Google Photos. MacOS support is barebones. Trying to export one photo occasionally takes minutes or fails quietly.
- selectodude 7y agoApple has a full-blown SSD controller with NVMe storage in the iPhone.
- kitsunesoba 7y agoAnd last I knew, it’s the same controller they use in Macs.
- zaroth 7y ago1GB/sec? Why does it (still) take over an hour to copy 100GB of photos and videos off my phone? Every time it seems like a nightmare because I don’t want to use some weird sync, or convert the files as they copy, or store the photos inside an Photos.app container.... I just want the damn files copied onto my NAS where I know they’re safe and automatically mirrored on Backblaze. Been doing it for 10 years now and still a painful and slow manual process. Most recently when I tried, I had to give up trying to do it on a Mac and move to a PC where I could see the individual files and copy them out of each folder and then delete them as a separate step. I can’t be the only one tearing hair out over this...
- layoutIfNeeded 7y agoThey make it hard so you give up and subscribe to their cloud storage offering.
- LeoTinnitus 7y agoYes. It's also why all Macs still don't have greater than 128gb hard drives even when nvme has gotten considerably cheaper. I probably will not buy another Apple product until MacOs gets phased out and IpadOS becomes their new platform.
- thebiss 7y agoRight now you can buy a 13" MacBook Pro, customized with 16GB memory, 2TB SSD. https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch-space-gray-2.4ghz-quad-core-processor-with-turbo-boost-up-to-4.1ghz-256gb https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro/13-inch-space...
- LeoTinnitus 7y agoI realized I mis-spoke. I should've said the base models.
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- mwcampbell 7y agoAm I the only one who thinks that microSD cards, and by extension EUFS cards, are too small? It's very easy to lose a microSD card. I thought the original SD form factor was good.
- gowld 7y agoMicroSD is good for phones. Outside of a phone, keep your microSD in an SD adapter case or even a larger tray.
- wyattpeak 7y agoHow often do you handle them? I like them the size they are because in my experience I only really handle them when I get a new phone. For something I touch less than once a year, I'd rather they be as small as possible so they don't have to bulk up my devices.
- freepor 7y agoHow do they manage the heat at these speeds? I've seen even MicroSD get ouchingly hot.
- antpls 7y agoI would guess a better manufacturing process and smaller components lead to better energy efficiency and less heat dissipation.
- hettygreen 7y agoI clicked on the link expecting that EUFS 3.1 was some new piece of medical equipment that could speed up Covid-19 testing. I guess I get my nerd card taken away for not knowing my acronyms (and ignoring the "512GB" part).
- Dylan16807 7y agoThe world didn't end. If you expect every single news article to be about the disease, you need to step away from the news for a while.