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I think people just generally have a lot less sympathy for literal Nazis, who the Germans voted into power, and any aggressors in a military campaign. America d

I think people just generally have a lot less sympathy for literal Nazis, who the Germans voted into power, and any aggressors in a military campaign. America didn't just nuke Japan out of nowhere, the Japanese opened the door to that when they bombed pearl harbor and attempted to conquer the Pacific. When the bad guys get what's coming to them, people don't feel so bad about it. And don't pretend civilians are completely innocent in these cases. You blame Americans for voting Trump into power, right? Then you also have to blame Germans for putting Hitler into power, and the Japanese for supporting their leaders' violent colonialism. The conflict was hugely popular on the home front in Japan. Until they started losing, of course. Japan and Germany were not the victims of WWII.

lopmotr 7y ago
Who ever identifies themselves as the bad guys? Even an aggressor has an excuse for why he believes he's morally right. The US invading Afghanistan for instance was obviously the aggressor but blamed the victim for deserving it. The Nazis blamed their victims too and their victims did do things to deserve it, in some sense. Your simple goodies vs baddies view is wrong. I agree with your point about blaming voters though. In a democracy, politicians are only a reflection of what voters demand. They don't have much independent power themselves. Even in a non-democratic country, the populace is tacitly supporting their leaders and placing their immediate personal safety ahead of the enemies of their leaders.
dntbnmpls 7y ago
> who the Germans voted into power Most germans didn't vote for the nazis. Certainly the hundreds of thousands of non-voting young people and children who perished during the firebombings certainly didn't. > You blame Americans for voting Trump into power, right? No. Why would I? Not sure if you are trolling or not. > and the Japanese for supporting their leaders' violent colonialism. You do realize that was the era of colonialism right? Certainly there weren't a greater colonial power than the US, Britain and the Soviet Union. > Japan and Germany were not the victims of WWII. By definition they are. Victor and victim have a common root for a reason. And certainly all the innocent civilians ( men, women and children ) who were killed in the firebombings and nukings are certainly victims. I feel like you are trolling, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Anyways, the topic was "rules of war" and everybody violated it during ww2.
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lopmotr 7y ago

Who ever identifies themselves as the bad guys? Even an aggressor has an excuse for why he believes he's morally right. The US invading Afghanistan for instance was obviously the aggressor but blamed the victim for deserving it. The Nazis blamed their victims too and their victims did do things to deserve it, in some sense. Your simple goodies vs baddies view is wrong. I agree with your point about blaming voters though. In a democracy, politicians are only a reflection of what voters demand. They don't have much independent power themselves. Even in a non-democratic country, the populace is tacitly supporting their leaders and placing their immediate personal safety ahead of the enemies of their leaders.

dntbnmpls 7y ago

> who the Germans voted into power Most germans didn't vote for the nazis. Certainly the hundreds of thousands of non-voting young people and children who perished during the firebombings certainly didn't. > You blame Americans for voting Trump into power, right? No. Why would I? Not sure if you are trolling or not. > and the Japanese for supporting their leaders' violent colonialism. You do realize that was the era of colonialism right? Certainly there weren't a greater colonial power than the US, Britain and the Soviet Union. > Japan and Germany were not the victims of WWII. By definition they are. Victor and victim have a common root for a reason. And certainly all the innocent civilians ( men, women and children ) who were killed in the firebombings and nukings are certainly victims. I feel like you are trolling, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Anyways, the topic was "rules of war" and everybody violated it during ww2.

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