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I hope by seized e means try bought them at market price. While supportive of strict social distancing measures I do not think any governor or president can su

I hope by seized e means try bought them at market price. While supportive of strict social distancing measures I do not think any governor or president can suddenly start tossing basic civil rights. The rise of authoritarian language from state leaders is very concerning

ceejayoz 7y ago
I suspect this was voluntary, but governors and the President have a lot of extra powers once an emergency is formally declared. (Which it has.) For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950
- takeda 7y ago
  And they still didn't invoke it, but instead asking for this https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-suspend-constitutional-rights-coronavirus-970935/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-susp...
  - tathougies 7y ago
    It is available to be invoked but it is better that we dont have to use it to compel manufacturers and can instead ask nicely. Currently all manufacturers are basically complying without compulsion.
- tathougies 7y ago
  Yes they have the power to compel a sale but the government has to pay. And the defense production act is not relevant to governors. Governors have sovereign executive power in their state including ordinary police power. The federal government does not ordinarily have that power which is why they need an act of congress.
MiroF 7y ago
It should be seized and compensated with eminent domain. Buying implies right of refusal and no, I don't think that Target should be able to stockpile N95 masks in its warehouses.
- tathougies 7y ago
  Sure. Being compensated still means they were bought. Compelled to sell is fine as an emergency police power and is fine. Being seized is a violation of the amendment against involuntary seizure without due process of law.
takeda 7y ago
Doesn't change the fact that they are trying: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-suspend-constitutional-rights-coronavirus-970935/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-susp... That makes it extra scary.

ceejayoz 7y ago

I suspect this was voluntary, but governors and the President have a lot of extra powers once an emergency is formally declared. (Which it has.) For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Production_Act_of_1950

takeda 7y ago
And they still didn't invoke it, but instead asking for this https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-suspend-constitutional-rights-coronavirus-970935/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-susp...
- tathougies 7y ago
  It is available to be invoked but it is better that we dont have to use it to compel manufacturers and can instead ask nicely. Currently all manufacturers are basically complying without compulsion.
tathougies 7y ago
Yes they have the power to compel a sale but the government has to pay. And the defense production act is not relevant to governors. Governors have sovereign executive power in their state including ordinary police power. The federal government does not ordinarily have that power which is why they need an act of congress.

MiroF 7y ago

It should be seized and compensated with eminent domain. Buying implies right of refusal and no, I don't think that Target should be able to stockpile N95 masks in its warehouses.

tathougies 7y ago
Sure. Being compensated still means they were bought. Compelled to sell is fine as an emergency police power and is fine. Being seized is a violation of the amendment against involuntary seizure without due process of law.

takeda 7y ago

Doesn't change the fact that they are trying: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-suspend-constitutional-rights-coronavirus-970935/ https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/doj-susp... That makes it extra scary.