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Excellent guide and very nutritious. On a side note I wonder how the pandemic will impact food service in the long run from the perspective that before the pan
by austincheney 7y ago
Excellent guide and very nutritious.
On a side note I wonder how the pandemic will impact food service in the long run from the perspective that before the pandemic many people never prepared their own meals. Now in many areas people are for the first time limited to groceries and produce instead of restaurants and fast food. If people continue their own food preparation moving forward this will have interesting consequences for nutrition, poverty, food availability, and so forth.
As an interesting example my son attends a Title 1 school which means many students are utterly reliant on the school for meals while other meals are almost always fast food for many of these students. How parents are not able to afford to feed their children and yet drive new cars and give their children cell phones is a different conversation.
- mcculley 7y ago"New cars" is obviously poor decision making, but aren't cell phones cheaper than food nowadays? It should not be surprising that poor people have cell phones. The gadgets we once thought of as luxuries will continue to decrease in real cost.
- lonelappde 7y agoAnd they aren't buying new cars. They are more often buying junk used cars with predatory financing contracts (https://youtu.be/4U2eDJnwz_s https://youtu.be/4U2eDJnwz_s) Parent poster was just spreading Fox "News" propaganda.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoI dont think there was any link to Fox News. Can you source why you think that is the case?
- jlokier 7y agoI think "Fox News" is being used here as code for right-wing propaganda, masquerading as journalism. And that the type of right-wing propaganda is that associated with the word "scrounger" in the UK, which is code for "poverty isn't real, it's fakers and stupid people wasting their copious money, people make themselves poor (so we don't have to care)". Represented in this case by someone saying poor people buy new cars, when the reality is poor people buy extremely cheap second hand cars, and cannot afford new cars. And even that is out of a sense of necessity - in many places in the UK you need a car to get to work. Related right-wing propaganda in the UK says that poor people have loads of money but pretend they don't, and spend it stupidly on alcohol, cigarettes and luxury holidays, and that any financial worries or, say, hunger, is their own fault. While many people do spend occasionally on those things, many poor people in the UK (who I know) spend nothing on any of those things, and couldn't afford it if they wanted to; so it is galling to see it implied in newspaper stories regularly. Not so much of that at the moment though. TLDR "Fox News propaganda" is code for "poor people aren't really poor, so we don't have to care".
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoOk, so no sources, just biases about an opposing ideology that can only be filled with evil and irrational people (because if they were good people they would align with you) MIGHT think. Got it.
- jlokier 7y agoI'm describing how the phrase "Fox News propaganda" is used as a codephrase by many for a perceived ideology and messaging. Not what I think of Fox. I don't have a stake in that game; I'm not in the USA and don't watch any of the channels there. You don't have to agree, but you did specifically ask why Fox was mentioned in the parent comment, and your question sounded similar to those by people who don't understand English well and deserve a simple explanation of a perplexing phrase. I attempted to provide my best guess to help you.
- austincheney 7y agoI am not right wing and I am not sure how you came that conclusion since you don’t know me and are unfamiliar with observations of my child’s school.
- bengale 7y agoThey also take the place of a computer for many people. I know several people who no longer have a computer or laptop at home because their cell phone does everything they need.
- austincheney 7y agoPerhaps but price regression doesn’t make anything more imperative to survival, such as feeding your children. Given the comparison of purchasing an additional cell phone and plan for your child versus feeding your child which is more important? Especially considering the price of school lunch is already so heavily subsidized.
- bluedino 7y agoWe haven't reached shortages and such yet - and we also would have to have food scarcity for a long time to change the habits of Americans. This will be "real" food scarcity, not the stuff manufactured by the left and the media, with food deserts and all. I haven't seen fresh beef or chicken and the grocery stores for two weeks now. I doubt we'll get to the point of our grandparents and great grandparents, where they didn't waste anything when it came to food because they grew up during the depression. But it will be a net positive for the country to go back to cooking their own meals, generally eating healthier, and eating less calories overall. The USA doesn't need to be in the top of the lists of obesity. There may be casualties in the food and restaurant industry. But in a way we reached peak food with how ridiculous some places and prices were becoming.
- Swizec 7y agoHere in SF everything is still fully stocked in the morning on a weekend at least. Fresh veggies, fresh meats, cans of stuff. There’s even some rationed toilet paper on the shelfs. But I only shop on Saturday mornings so maybe that’s why.
- bostonpete 7y agoI'm confused. You start off implying that it would take a lot more severe shortages to change American habits and then later seem to say the current (coming?) changes in habits "will be a net positive". Are you anticipating more severe shortages?
- matwood 7y ago> I haven't seen fresh beef or chicken and the grocery stores for two weeks now. I don't know where you are located, but beef and fish was never an issue here. Chicken and pork sold out, but have been getting restocked every other day. Can you explain what about COVID-19 is going to cause food scarcity in the US?
- PaulDavisThe1st 7y agoWhat could cause it would be a very high rate of infection that knocks out 20% of the workforce operating in food harvest, production and/or distribution. Even if they all recover (likely, it seems), that would make it hard to keep the supply chains running smoothly.
- smileysteve 7y ago> give their children cell phones Cell phones have a regressive indicator. When you have less time (single parent, multiple jobs) coordinating with that caregiver or a backup caregiver (bus, grandparent, friend) is important (and in a world without pay phones). In addition, a phone serves as "cheap" entertainment (games, social networks).