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China claims to have stopped it in its tracks.

thr0w__4w4y 7y ago
This is a 100% serious question: I see that your statement is simply stated (and it's a fair representation of what China is saying as of /right now/), but I get the feeling you either agree with it and are applauding China, or are pointing out how ludicrous / absurd such a position is. For the tone-impaired amongst us, if you are taking one of the positions, can you please help this simpleton understand what you think of China's proclamation? I ask because I really don't know what most people think these days about the news coming out of China. Sincere thanks.
- frequentnapper 7y ago
  Personally, I take anything announced by the ccp with a grain of salt. They can maneuver the news any which way they want without being challenged internally.
koheripbal 7y ago
China effectively let everyone catch the disease so that now everyone is either immune or dead.
- baobabKoodaa 7y ago
  This is wildly untrue and unfounded.
- Zenbit_UX 7y ago
  You think they handled a billion infections? Did you really think this through? The current numbers in China are ~80,000 not 1,000,000,000. Common sense should explain to you why that's not possible.
StanislavPetrov 7y ago
China locked down the entire country and implemented draconian never that we have (and will not). Check out what is required to travel right now in China: https://twitter.com/CarolYujiaYin/status/1239583581325778944 https://twitter.com/CarolYujiaYin/status/1239583581325778944 Here in the USA we are only two days removed from having run Democratic primaries where millions of people lined up and crowded together in small rooms - the total opposite of what China (and South Korea and Japan) have done. Images of packed beaches and boardwalks continue to emerge. The unfortunate fact is that many Americans aren't taking this pandemic seriously which is going to result in a much worse time of it than it could have otherwise been.
dmix 7y ago
Hong Kong announced ~48 new confirmed COVID-19 cases today [1] (within last 24hrs) with experts predicting 300-500 in the next two weeks. Unless HK (and Taiwan who also has seen spikes) is still not considered China? We already know most test results are days late from the actual swabbing + ~5-10 days of being asymptomatic + showing early symptoms before ending up in a hospital to be tested. Making the results we see from HK's (free) press today are up to 2 weeks old already and China's second wave could have already started. Either way mainland China faces a similar increase by the second-wave return of citizens as people return from visiting the rest of the world - a world increasingly being ravaged by COVID. Ignoring the global travel, HK<>mainland travel is super common and a good early signal for mainland. I personally know lots of Chinese citizens who stayed in Canada after early results from China and are waiting it out here with family. I highly doubt the Chinese authorities can rest until the virus is shutdown globally. We live in a global economy with China as the engine. If China returns to normal before that it won't be long until super-infectors return to some of the most densely populated cities on the planet and everyone is being told to self-isolate again. If China does end self-isolation (or the far more authoritarian measures that aren't found elsewhere) early then they also better close their borders from inbound travelers and tell their returning citizens to stay where they are. [1] https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3076236/coronavirus-hong-kongs-single-day-record-48-new https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic...

This is a 100% serious question: I see that your statement is simply stated (and it's a fair representation of what China is saying as of /right now/), but I get the feeling you either agree with it and are applauding China, or are pointing out how ludicrous / absurd such a position is. For the tone-impaired amongst us, if you are taking one of the positions, can you please help this simpleton understand what you think of China's proclamation? I ask because I really don't know what most people think these days about the news coming out of China. Sincere thanks.

frequentnapper 7y ago
Personally, I take anything announced by the ccp with a grain of salt. They can maneuver the news any which way they want without being challenged internally.

koheripbal 7y ago

China effectively let everyone catch the disease so that now everyone is either immune or dead.

baobabKoodaa 7y ago
This is wildly untrue and unfounded.
Zenbit_UX 7y ago
You think they handled a billion infections? Did you really think this through? The current numbers in China are ~80,000 not 1,000,000,000. Common sense should explain to you why that's not possible.

StanislavPetrov 7y ago

China locked down the entire country and implemented draconian never that we have (and will not). Check out what is required to travel right now in China: https://twitter.com/CarolYujiaYin/status/1239583581325778944 https://twitter.com/CarolYujiaYin/status/1239583581325778944 Here in the USA we are only two days removed from having run Democratic primaries where millions of people lined up and crowded together in small rooms - the total opposite of what China (and South Korea and Japan) have done. Images of packed beaches and boardwalks continue to emerge. The unfortunate fact is that many Americans aren't taking this pandemic seriously which is going to result in a much worse time of it than it could have otherwise been.

dmix 7y ago

Hong Kong announced ~48 new confirmed COVID-19 cases today [1] (within last 24hrs) with experts predicting 300-500 in the next two weeks. Unless HK (and Taiwan who also has seen spikes) is still not considered China? We already know most test results are days late from the actual swabbing + ~5-10 days of being asymptomatic + showing early symptoms before ending up in a hospital to be tested. Making the results we see from HK's (free) press today are up to 2 weeks old already and China's second wave could have already started. Either way mainland China faces a similar increase by the second-wave return of citizens as people return from visiting the rest of the world - a world increasingly being ravaged by COVID. Ignoring the global travel, HK<>mainland travel is super common and a good early signal for mainland. I personally know lots of Chinese citizens who stayed in Canada after early results from China and are waiting it out here with family. I highly doubt the Chinese authorities can rest until the virus is shutdown globally. We live in a global economy with China as the engine. If China returns to normal before that it won't be long until super-infectors return to some of the most densely populated cities on the planet and everyone is being told to self-isolate again. If China does end self-isolation (or the far more authoritarian measures that aren't found elsewhere) early then they also better close their borders from inbound travelers and tell their returning citizens to stay where they are. [1] https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/article/3076236/coronavirus-hong-kongs-single-day-record-48-new https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/health-environment/artic...