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> COVID isn't quite as bad as cancer, but Chloroquine, especially for a short course, isn't anywhere near as bad as most chemo drugs. For certain individuals w

> COVID isn't quite as bad as cancer, but Chloroquine, especially for a short course, isn't anywhere near as bad as most chemo drugs. For certain individuals who just happen to have a bad reaction, COVID could well be just as fatal as cancer. In terms of how fast it can kill people, in certain cases, it can be worse than a lot of cancers.

caycep 7y ago
use hydroxochloroquine then?
cameldrv 7y ago
Do you mean COVID is as fatal as cancer or Chloroquine is?
- gnulinux 7y ago
  COVID. For >70 y.o. individuals mortality rate is 30%. If you're >70 y.o. have heart condition and have diabetes (all risk factors) COVID is clearly more deadly than some (most?) cancers, not to mention it kills in the order of weeks, when cancer kills in the order of months or years.
  - cameldrv 7y ago
    Right. OTOH in the Chinese treatment guidelines, they say not to give it for >65 y.o. Unfortunately that's exactly the population it would potentially benefit the most. I'm guessing there must be some reason that's in there, but I'd like to see numbers.
  - mcguire 7y ago
    "For >70 y.o. individuals mortality rate is 30%." Where are you getting this number? It is significantly higher than any I have seen. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm - TABLE. Hospitalization, intensive care unit (ICU) admission, and case–fatality percentages for reported COVID–19 cases, by age group —United States, February 12–March 16, 2020 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se... - Age of Coronavirus Deaths
  - tveita 7y ago
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm gives a CFR of 4.3–10.5% for age group 75-84 and 10.4–27.3% for age group ≥85. Your number is over that by quite a bit, where is it from?

caycep 7y ago

use hydroxochloroquine then?

cameldrv 7y ago

Do you mean COVID is as fatal as cancer or Chloroquine is?

gnulinux 7y ago
COVID. For >70 y.o. individuals mortality rate is 30%. If you're >70 y.o. have heart condition and have diabetes (all risk factors) COVID is clearly more deadly than some (most?) cancers, not to mention it kills in the order of weeks, when cancer kills in the order of months or years.
- cameldrv 7y ago
  Right. OTOH in the Chinese treatment guidelines, they say not to give it for >65 y.o. Unfortunately that's exactly the population it would potentially benefit the most. I'm guessing there must be some reason that's in there, but I'd like to see numbers.
- mcguire 7y ago
  "For >70 y.o. individuals mortality rate is 30%." Where are you getting this number? It is significantly higher than any I have seen. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm - TABLE. Hospitalization, intensive care unit (ICU) admission, and case–fatality percentages for reported COVID–19 cases, by age group —United States, February 12–March 16, 2020 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/ https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-se... - Age of Coronavirus Deaths
- tveita 7y ago
  https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm gives a CFR of 4.3–10.5% for age group 75-84 and 10.4–27.3% for age group ≥85. Your number is over that by quite a bit, where is it from?