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Lemmings 2: The Tribes
- marcosscriven 7y agoBrings back memories! Thanks for sharing the game.
- CamouflagedKiwi 7y agoWhat a great game... spent many hours on this back in the day. > The ultimate Lemmings 2 achievement, needless to say, is to collect gold stars across the board. Turns out this isn't quite true... I (and many others) achieved that long ago, but a few years back I found someone had gone through the whole game without losing a lemming on any level, which is pretty astounding; in many levels that seems completely impossible. Never underestimate what dedicated gamers will achieve...
- dmurray 7y agoI didn't play Lemmings 2, only Lemmings, but it seems completely impossible there and very constraining on the design space, if you want to make sure that's always possible (you can never have a level that requires a blocker or a bomber, which are two of your 8 abilities). I see from the article they added a lot more abilities in the sequel. However, the article suggests getting gold stars across the board is mostly equivalent to not losing a lemming > To wind up with gold at the end, you usually need to have kept every single one of the little fellows alive through all ten levels.
- egypturnash 7y agoWhat, you never dug under a blocker to release her from her duties? As soon as they fall they turn back into normal lemmings.
- dmurray 7y agoOh yeah. Just rules out bombers, then, unless there's some other trick I don't know about.
- egypturnash 7y agoI think that pretty much every level with bombers available could be solved without one, if you were sufficiently versed in the edge cases of how the game worked. I could be wrong, it’s been decades.
- gdm85 7y agoNo, sorry :) there are levels which absolutely require the sacrifice (regular levels and the special ones too)
- capableweb 7y agoYour statement directly conflicts with the initial comment that said "but a few years back I found someone had gone through the whole game without losing a lemming on any level" Who's right? Who got the sources to back themselves up?
- josefx 7y agoI think they are talking about Lemmings while the initial comment was about Lemmings 2?
- capableweb 7y agoAh, that might be, it's unclear to me. Thanks for trying to clarify!
- gdm85 7y agoYes, the subthread is about the first Lemmings
- 40four 7y agoFor sure, many fond memories of playing this! I’m not sure what the secret sauce is, but it was but it was so much fun. Might be worth dusting off and see if it holds up.
- dwd 7y agoDid that, and had Lemming dreams for weeks...
- thih9 7y ago> someone had gone through the whole game without losing a lemming on any level Do you have a source? I tried searching but haven’t found anything.
- SeanFerree 7y agoAlways have enjoyed this game
- Razengan 7y agoThe pixel perfect terrain deformation of Lemmings and Worms will always be impressive, and something that 3D can’t do as well as 2D (yet?) I wonder why there haven’t been any modern sequels or mobile ports of Lemmings..
- chrononaut 7y agoI have the same opinion as it relates to 2D RPGs, e.g., FF6. The level of detail that could be added into the most benign piece of background art added so much more weight into the entire scene.
- severine 7y ago> I wonder why there haven’t been any modern sequels or mobile ports of Lemmings... From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game)#Legacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game)#Legacy In 2010, it was announced that Lemmings would be ported to the iOS operating system by developer Mobile 1UP. On 29 June 2010, Mobile 1UP reported that Sony Computer Entertainment Europe had presented them with a cease-and-desist letter, forcing them to halt development of the port. In April 2011, Mobile 1UP has released a re-worked version of the work done in 2010 with a prehistoric setting (new artwork, sfx, music, levels) under the name Caveman, available for the iOS and webOS platforms. Brutal Deluxe, the developer who did the porting of the Apple IIgs version of Lemmings, has released the games' source code. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game)#Ports_and_remakes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings_(video_game)#Ports_an...
- Waterluvian 7y agoI played a mobile lemmings game on Android just last year. It was completely uninspired and not actually a lemmings game loop.
- aasasd 7y agoThere was this crazy game ‘Vangers’ that, apart from the most-otherworldly feel I've ever encountered, had terrain in voxel graphics and permanently destructible — and I don't mean shitty Minecraft voxels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9R7QJ5Sh1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9R7QJ5Sh1o That was '98. Still wondering why I haven't seen anything like that anymore. I vaguely recall one dude working on a super-detailed engine, down to individual blades of grass and such, but not sure how's the damage model there (that's possibly related to this, but probably not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00gAbgBu8R4). There's also the ‘Teardown’ game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_QC25RM44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc_QC25RM44, and a search for ‘voxel graphics’ on YouTube suggests a few others in this vein. Still not quite the same. As for mobile Lemmings, the Play store tried to sell them to me just yesterday.
- _trampeltier 7y agoI think it was one of the first PC game I ever bought. But I never could play all levels because I had trouble with the copy protection :-(
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- FlorianRappl 7y agoHad an Amiga 500 with (among other games) Lemmings... Great times even though, honestly, for me as a 5 year old the levels / understanding of the game was a bit too much.
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y agoIn the same boat. I have fond memories of spending many hours watching my older brother play these games. To this day I consider myself a professional video game watcher.
- Symbiote 7y agoI remember watching my parents play. I would have been 5 or 6, and I think I could do a good number of levels. Once or twice, I remember waking in the night and going downstairs to find one or both parents playing the game in the middle of the night.
- aasasd 7y agoI know this may sound cynical, and I know it's a whole different kind of work for the authors, but I could use a YouTube channel with these stories. This kind of content is quite perfect for losing myself in it while meditatively chomping on spaghetti, strand by strand. I mean, I regularly watch channels like ‘Technology Connections’ and others that dissect some ultra-nerdy topic for twenty minutes.
- corysama 7y agohttps://www.reddit.com/r/TheMakingOfGames/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMakingOfGames/
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y agoYou may enjoy the “War Stories” series by ArsTechnica. It follows a developer of an early game and what it took to create it. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKBPwuu3eCYkScmqpD9xE7UZsszweVO0n https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKBPwuu3eCYkScmqpD9xE...
- wensley 7y agoThere are some really well produced 'making of' videos on the Splash Wave YouTube channel: https://m.youtube.com/user/strafefox https://m.youtube.com/user/strafefox
- kristianp 7y agoI'm pretty sure the original lemmings had 30 levels, at least on pc. The author is multiplying the 4 difficulty levels, to get 120, which I don't agree with. I had a housemate who got through all the levels of Mayhem difficulty. I couldn't do one at that difficulty. Here's his article on the original: https://www.filfre.net/2017/10/games-on-the-mersey-part-5-the-lemmings-effect/ https://www.filfre.net/2017/10/games-on-the-mersey-part-5-th...
- pavlov 7y agoThe levels are different at each difficulty. You can see them here: https://lemmings.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Lemmings_Difficulties https://lemmings.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Lemmings_Difficult... "Mayhem 1" is nothing like "Fun 1", for example.
- gpderetta 7y agoSome harder levels were variant of easier levels (often with small changes), but yes, most levels were original. What a great game.
- rob74 7y agoThe small changes being that instead of saving 80% of the Lemmings you had to save 100%. Or some skills which you had the first time around were missing. But yeah, the original Lemmings fit on 2 Amiga floppy disks (1,76 MB), and they also had to fit in four "Easter Egg" levels with exclusive graphics and music, so they had to do some optimizations...
- kohtatsu 7y agoWhen I was like 10 years old I did a commercial and bought a PSP with the money. One day my grandma offered to buy me a game, so I picked Lemmings off the shelf. She was very concerned whether it would be age appropriate, but I reassured her that the E for Everyone ERSB rating meant it was totally fine, and my mom would have no problems. Turned out the ERSB mislabeled that game. I mostly avoided the gore after getting bored of it though. The level creator was a lot of fun, and I'm sure the gameplay in general lent itself to my brain being wired for programming.
- rob74 7y agoI totally understand that you got bored of it on the PSP - I was a great fan of the original Amiga game, then years later I tried the SNES version, and found it much less enjoyable to play without a mouse...
- kohtatsu 7y agoI meant of the gore. There were a lot of uh, creative devices for killing lemmings. Never got bored of the game :)
- foreigner 7y agoI loved this game as a kid and wish I could get a version for my Android phone. The current Lemmings available for Android is awful.
- Reason077 7y agoYeah, Lemmings seems like a prime candidate for a modern remake for mobile/touch screens. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet!
- rob74 7y agoThe original Lemmings games really work best with a mouse, which allows pixel-perfect clicking. But I've played some Android games over the years that reminded me of Lemmings, the first two that come to mind are World of Goo and Spirits...
- juliangamble 7y agoThe concept video of Lemmings for Augmented Reality is lots of fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vluX8rrWlNY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vluX8rrWlNY https://futurism.com/videos/this-classic-90s-game-is-making-its-way-to-vr https://futurism.com/videos/this-classic-90s-game-is-making-...
- grugagag 7y agoDoes anyone remember Supaplex?
- acheron 7y agoWow, I had no idea that the Lemmings developers went on to become the Grand Theft Auto devs. That now becomes the craziest connection I’ve learned about in this blog series. (Previously it was that a weird French shareware game called “Popcorn” was made by the same guy that later did Alone in the Dark.)