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An alternate zinc ionophore with less side effects is Quercetin [1] [2] which some people here already take for other reasons, myself included. It is most bene
by LinuxBender 7y ago
An alternate zinc ionophore with less side effects is Quercetin [1] [2] which some people here already take for other reasons, myself included. It is most beneficial if being taken prior to infection to slow the RNA transcoding process by getting more zinc into the cells, assuming one is not deficient in zinc to begin with. I mention this because by the time someone is talking to a doctor, the virus has likely already replicated in vast amounts. Chloroquine currently requires a prescription, at least in the U.S. I am neither a doctor or a scientist, as per my profile. Very few doctors study molecular biology as a hobby or as part of their career.
[Edit] To be clear, I am not a doctor and this is not medical advise. Please research this topic yourself. There are many studies on nih.gov on zinc ioniphores. Here is a video discussing both compounds by a doctor. [3] They are also not giving medical advise.
[1] - https://examine.com/supplements/quercetin/ https://examine.com/supplements/quercetin/
[2] - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25050823 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25050823
[3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4_LsftNKM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4_LsftNKM
- bulldog13 7y agoAre you a doctor or medical professional ?
- turndown 7y agoConsidering there is no edit on the original post, the answer has been in it since you asked the question.
- jessaustin 7y agoHow can we tell if HN comments have been edited? [I have now edited... but please don't say "I see that you added something in brackets"]
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- Spare_account 7y agoCan you please edit this one and I'll tell you what I see
- Spare_account 7y agoI see no indication that you've edited it.
- jessaustin 7y agoYes this contradicts GP claim that it's possible for HN users to tell whether comments have been edited.
- Alex3917 7y agoIf you want to see a doctor saying the same thing, just do a search on YouTube. I'm not really sure it changes the credibility of the information.
- capableweb 7y agoI wouldn't blindly trust it _just because_ a doctor said it, but I would definitely put more trust in a doctor giving medical advice than someone who is not a doctor or similar. Isn't the whole thing with medical advice and doctors that doctors are being trusted and believed in, meaning they have credibility.
- amelius 7y agoBut then you get "search bias" which would lower the credibility.
- mirimir 7y agoDoctors also claimed that smoking tobacco was safe. Just sayin'.
- fb1994 7y agoLomatium root has proved itself during 1918 Spanish Flu http://debrasnaturalgourmet.com/lomatium-root-possibly-the-best-anti-viral/ http://debrasnaturalgourmet.com/lomatium-root-possibly-the-b...
- WalterSear 7y agoIt's also useful in conjunction with chloroquine: > In conclusion, our study strongly suggests co administration of antioxidant flavonoid like quercetin along with CQ for antimalarial therapy. This is particularly important when CQ is administered as long-term prophylactic treatment for malaria as chronic exposure has shown to be resulting in higher dose level of drug in the body. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3625570/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3625570/
- HarryHirsch 7y agoBioavailability of quercetin is low. That doesn't prevent the supplement industry from profiting from it, unfortunately. The upside is, since it's poorly absorbed from the gut, you probably won't die from it.
- amanaplanacanal 7y agoThere are formulations with higher bio-availability. Try Thorne Research Quercenase.
- aldoushuxley001 7y agoWould that mean Green tea could help? since Green tea is high in flavinoids like Quercetin.
- pombrand 7y agoQuercetin has an EC50 value of 84 uM in vitro against SARS-CoV, Chloroquine around 6 uM vs SARS-CoV-2 and it's a lot better absorbed - so to get any antiviral effect from quercetin you'd probably need at least 10 grams pr day.