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Does not work that way. How do you think Iran and North Korea are connected to Internet in the first place? For NTT and US, such a situation would be a PR disa

Does not work that way. How do you think Iran and North Korea are connected to Internet in the first place? For NTT and US, such a situation would be a PR disaster. It would be very difficult for them to explain to the public, why they are applying foreign laws to Japanese citizens. Even US knows that, and they would never push for such draconian thing.

tw04 7y ago
> Does not work that way. How do you think Iran and North Korea are connected to Internet in the first place? It literally works that way. North Korea is connected through China Unicom, and China doesn't recognize the North Korean sanctions. Iran's internet access isn't part of the current sanctions. >OFAC or the State Department may also impose so-called “secondary sanctions” on non-US companies, even with no US nexus to the activity. Under secondary sanctions, a non-US company may be restricted from US markets or the US financial system if it engages in certain conduct related to Iran, Russia, or North Korea.
- vetinari 7y ago
  > China doesn't recognize the North Korean sanctions. And this is the key. In order to the hypothetical NTT situation to be affected by US sanctions, Japan would have to recognize them. It would be up to the Japanese parliament to adopt them. US cannot force NTT unilaterally to kick out someone, NTT in Japan must be in line with Japanese law. Most countries in the world do not adopt US sanctions as their own. The sanction are being enforced worldwide via contract law (i.e. the exporting company has a contract with the US vendor that it won't sell to specified parties); not by US forcing its jurisdiction on other countries. That would result in pretty nasty questioning about democracy.
  - tw04 7y ago
    >In order to the hypothetical NTT situation to be affected by US sanctions, Japan would have to recognize them. It would be up to the Japanese parliament to adopt them. US cannot force NTT unilaterally to kick out someone, NTT in Japan must be in line with Japanese law. You can say that until you're blue in the face but it's not accurate. Let me know when NTT has a line running into Cuba and we can talk about how they only have to abide by Japanese sanctions and Japanese law.

tw04 7y ago

> Does not work that way. How do you think Iran and North Korea are connected to Internet in the first place? It literally works that way. North Korea is connected through China Unicom, and China doesn't recognize the North Korean sanctions. Iran's internet access isn't part of the current sanctions. >OFAC or the State Department may also impose so-called “secondary sanctions” on non-US companies, even with no US nexus to the activity. Under secondary sanctions, a non-US company may be restricted from US markets or the US financial system if it engages in certain conduct related to Iran, Russia, or North Korea.

vetinari 7y ago
> China doesn't recognize the North Korean sanctions. And this is the key. In order to the hypothetical NTT situation to be affected by US sanctions, Japan would have to recognize them. It would be up to the Japanese parliament to adopt them. US cannot force NTT unilaterally to kick out someone, NTT in Japan must be in line with Japanese law. Most countries in the world do not adopt US sanctions as their own. The sanction are being enforced worldwide via contract law (i.e. the exporting company has a contract with the US vendor that it won't sell to specified parties); not by US forcing its jurisdiction on other countries. That would result in pretty nasty questioning about democracy.
- tw04 7y ago
  >In order to the hypothetical NTT situation to be affected by US sanctions, Japan would have to recognize them. It would be up to the Japanese parliament to adopt them. US cannot force NTT unilaterally to kick out someone, NTT in Japan must be in line with Japanese law. You can say that until you're blue in the face but it's not accurate. Let me know when NTT has a line running into Cuba and we can talk about how they only have to abide by Japanese sanctions and Japanese law.