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Pro Display XDR

26 points by Finbarr 7y ago

jagger27 7y ago
What about it?
- phoe-krk 7y ago
  It's new, it's hardware, and it's Apple. News about Apple hardware often hit the HN frontpage. EDIT: misread the page; thought that's a new screen from Apple.
  - trimbo 7y ago
    It was announced like a year ago... So is the news that it's now orderable for people who can afford $6K for a monitor amid a pandemic?
    - gkfasdfasdf 7y ago
      I admit I was looking at this exact model yesterday to upgrade my current work at home monitor, though I can nowhere near justify the price...
  - MBCook 7y ago
    How is it new? Wasn’t this released with the Mac Pro a few months ago?
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - rconti 7y ago
    Is it? It looks exactly like the one that came out awhile ago. I hadn't really noticed the very video-production friendly refresh rates before though (mostly because I'm not in the market). >47.95Hz 48.00Hz 50.00Hz 59.94Hz 60.00Hz
- wmf 7y ago
  The monitor was released back in December but the manual was just released in Feb and people may find it more interesting: https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/pdf/Pro_Display_White_Paper_Feb_2020.pdf https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/pdf/Pro_Display_White_...
henriquez 7y ago
I’ll buy it once someone figures how to get it running in Linux, on non-Apple hardware.
ineedasername 7y ago
What's the nano glass option thing and why is it worth $1k?
- gherkinnn 7y ago
  Something about scattering the surrounding light, so you get a clearer picture and fewer reflections.
- veonik 7y ago
  > While both the standard glass and nano-texture glass options of Pro Display XDR are engineered for extremely low reflectivity, it helps to consider your work environment when deciding which one is right for you. > If you’re in an especially uncontrolled lighting environment, there’s an innovative matte option with nano-texture glass. Typical matte displays have a coating added to their surface that scatters light. However, these coatings lower contrast while producing unwanted haze and sparkle. The nano-texture on Pro Display XDR is actually etched into the glass at the nanometer level. The result is a screen with beautiful image quality that maintains contrast while scattering light to reduce glare to the barest minimum.
noncoml 7y ago
Lots of product announcements but no word about iPhone. No iPhone 9/SE 2 in March then?
- mperham 7y ago
  The iPhone has been updated every September for many years.
  - noncoml 7y ago
    I guess you are not following the news. There has been a rumor for a low end iPhone coming out this March. Nothing to do with the high end iPhones of September.
anewguy9000 7y ago
no mention of motion or response times. they're important ergonomic factors, much more so than 6k for a 32" screen you're 3' away from imo...
htk 7y ago
Maybe I didn’t get this right but does it really come without a stand/mount? And only those two options are compatible?
- wmf 7y ago
  The VESA mount is compatible with basically any third-party stand or arm.
phkahler 7y ago
1,000,000 to 1 seems like crazy hype. I assume that's like the brightest color to the blackest black. The thing is, at 10 bits the brightest white is 1023 times the second darkest gray. I doubt anyone can tell the difference.
- davidgay 7y ago
  The intensity is not a linear function of the bit value, the intensity is more or less value^2.2, which does give ~1e6 to 1... See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction for the gory details.
- etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
  I think this compares a fully off pixel to a fully on pixel. On normal LCD's this is maybe 1000x luminosity difference or something like that. OLED's could be much better. I don't think this comparison has anything to do with bit depth.
utopcell 7y ago
..and in the meanwhile, I still can't use my Dell UP3218K with the latest-and-greatest Macbook Pro. Thanks Apple.
- CSSer 7y ago
  Forgive me, but is this a joke? You have an 8K monitor? If yes, would you mind if I asked why and how you use this? What makes it worth it? I’m in the market for a new monitor. I’m coming from the first “nice” monitor I’ve ever had: a ~$300 27 inch LG HDR 4K. I thought it would be perfect, but to be honest it leaves a lot to be desired. It’s not even bright enough to beat the light coming through my office windows. What am I really paying for at these higher price tiers? Is it possible to meet somewhere in the middle? I do graphic, but not video, work.
  - 0x008 7y ago
    maybe check https://www.rtings.com/ https://www.rtings.com/ they have monitor reviews divided by categories (for example creative work) and they test every possible aspect (for example brightness in brightly lit rooms, peak brightness etc.) that might help you. you can also sort, filter and compare the different options. it's really good and they do all their testing themselves and buy all the monitors instead of getting review samples.
  - utopcell 7y ago
    I use it exclusively for programming. An 8k monitor is not a necessity, by any stretch: A good, large 4k monitor is more than enough for coding. I'd rather not voice an opinion about graphics or video usage because I don't know about the needs of these fields.
aikinai 7y ago
I don’t know why this is posted now, but since it’s here I wanted to share this review which I thought was incredibly well crafted and refreshing to watch. https://youtu.be/rtd7UzLJHrU https://youtu.be/rtd7UzLJHrU
- Xorlev 7y ago
  That review was incredibly well done and effectively dismantled many of Apple's overblown claims.
- dangerboysteve 7y ago
  I watched this video when it came out and some of the youtube comments are gold.
Groxx 7y ago
>Available VESA Mount Adapter Finally. The crazy lengths that 3rd party adapters go to to convert Apple displays are crazy, and it's absurd that they haven't used VESA for this long.

Pro Display XDR

26 points by Finbarr 7y ago

jagger27 7y ago

What about it?

phoe-krk 7y ago
It's new, it's hardware, and it's Apple. News about Apple hardware often hit the HN frontpage. EDIT: misread the page; thought that's a new screen from Apple.
- trimbo 7y ago
  It was announced like a year ago... So is the news that it's now orderable for people who can afford $6K for a monitor amid a pandemic?
  - gkfasdfasdf 7y ago
    I admit I was looking at this exact model yesterday to upgrade my current work at home monitor, though I can nowhere near justify the price...
- MBCook 7y ago
  How is it new? Wasn’t this released with the Mac Pro a few months ago?
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- rconti 7y ago
  Is it? It looks exactly like the one that came out awhile ago. I hadn't really noticed the very video-production friendly refresh rates before though (mostly because I'm not in the market). >47.95Hz 48.00Hz 50.00Hz 59.94Hz 60.00Hz
wmf 7y ago
The monitor was released back in December but the manual was just released in Feb and people may find it more interesting: https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/pdf/Pro_Display_White_Paper_Feb_2020.pdf https://www.apple.com/pro-display-xdr/pdf/Pro_Display_White_...

henriquez 7y ago

I’ll buy it once someone figures how to get it running in Linux, on non-Apple hardware.

ineedasername 7y ago

What's the nano glass option thing and why is it worth $1k?

gherkinnn 7y ago
Something about scattering the surrounding light, so you get a clearer picture and fewer reflections.
veonik 7y ago
> While both the standard glass and nano-texture glass options of Pro Display XDR are engineered for extremely low reflectivity, it helps to consider your work environment when deciding which one is right for you. > If you’re in an especially uncontrolled lighting environment, there’s an innovative matte option with nano-texture glass. Typical matte displays have a coating added to their surface that scatters light. However, these coatings lower contrast while producing unwanted haze and sparkle. The nano-texture on Pro Display XDR is actually etched into the glass at the nanometer level. The result is a screen with beautiful image quality that maintains contrast while scattering light to reduce glare to the barest minimum.

noncoml 7y ago

Lots of product announcements but no word about iPhone. No iPhone 9/SE 2 in March then?

mperham 7y ago
The iPhone has been updated every September for many years.
- noncoml 7y ago
  I guess you are not following the news. There has been a rumor for a low end iPhone coming out this March. Nothing to do with the high end iPhones of September.

anewguy9000 7y ago

no mention of motion or response times. they're important ergonomic factors, much more so than 6k for a 32" screen you're 3' away from imo...

htk 7y ago

Maybe I didn’t get this right but does it really come without a stand/mount? And only those two options are compatible?

wmf 7y ago
The VESA mount is compatible with basically any third-party stand or arm.

phkahler 7y ago

1,000,000 to 1 seems like crazy hype. I assume that's like the brightest color to the blackest black. The thing is, at 10 bits the brightest white is 1023 times the second darkest gray. I doubt anyone can tell the difference.

davidgay 7y ago
The intensity is not a linear function of the bit value, the intensity is more or less value^2.2, which does give ~1e6 to 1... See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction for the gory details.
etaioinshrdlu 7y ago
I think this compares a fully off pixel to a fully on pixel. On normal LCD's this is maybe 1000x luminosity difference or something like that. OLED's could be much better. I don't think this comparison has anything to do with bit depth.

utopcell 7y ago

..and in the meanwhile, I still can't use my Dell UP3218K with the latest-and-greatest Macbook Pro. Thanks Apple.

CSSer 7y ago
Forgive me, but is this a joke? You have an 8K monitor? If yes, would you mind if I asked why and how you use this? What makes it worth it? I’m in the market for a new monitor. I’m coming from the first “nice” monitor I’ve ever had: a ~$300 27 inch LG HDR 4K. I thought it would be perfect, but to be honest it leaves a lot to be desired. It’s not even bright enough to beat the light coming through my office windows. What am I really paying for at these higher price tiers? Is it possible to meet somewhere in the middle? I do graphic, but not video, work.
- 0x008 7y ago
  maybe check https://www.rtings.com/ https://www.rtings.com/ they have monitor reviews divided by categories (for example creative work) and they test every possible aspect (for example brightness in brightly lit rooms, peak brightness etc.) that might help you. you can also sort, filter and compare the different options. it's really good and they do all their testing themselves and buy all the monitors instead of getting review samples.
- utopcell 7y ago
  I use it exclusively for programming. An 8k monitor is not a necessity, by any stretch: A good, large 4k monitor is more than enough for coding. I'd rather not voice an opinion about graphics or video usage because I don't know about the needs of these fields.

aikinai 7y ago

I don’t know why this is posted now, but since it’s here I wanted to share this review which I thought was incredibly well crafted and refreshing to watch. https://youtu.be/rtd7UzLJHrU https://youtu.be/rtd7UzLJHrU

Xorlev 7y ago
That review was incredibly well done and effectively dismantled many of Apple's overblown claims.
dangerboysteve 7y ago
I watched this video when it came out and some of the youtube comments are gold.

Groxx 7y ago

>Available VESA Mount Adapter Finally. The crazy lengths that 3rd party adapters go to to convert Apple displays are crazy, and it's absurd that they haven't used VESA for this long.