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I have no way to supply the bidet with water, since the faucet is on the other side if the room and used for the laundry machine. I know splitters exist. But ru

I have no way to supply the bidet with water, since the faucet is on the other side if the room and used for the laundry machine. I know splitters exist. But running a hose across the room is impractical... Water collector for the toilet is build into the wall...

floren 7y ago
Doesn't the bidet take its water supply from the toilet's own valve? That's how I'd do it, just add a tap to the outlet of the valve (https://i.imgur.com/Or7mhpW.png https://i.imgur.com/Or7mhpW.png). No need to turn off your home water supply to install it, either.
- neuronic 7y ago
  I edited a second after you submitted. No, everything is built into the wall. You have to destroy it to get to the pipes. Not even a "door" or some tile to open. It's all sealed away.
  - jhart99 7y ago
    There is no pipe or hose that connects to your toilet with a valve? The one I have can attach either at the valve or at the tank where the water enters the toilet.
    - neuronic 7y ago
      Tank is inside a wall, sealed and no access. May you can take off the button panel but a hose wouldn't be able to go through there. All of the piping is in the wall and there is one faucet across the room.
  - derekp7 7y ago
    So how do you work on the toilet (as in, replace the flap or fill valve) without access to a water shutoff?
    - neuronic 7y ago
      The answer is you don't. I know people think I am missing something but I really don't. I have fixed toilets in other long term apartments before. This one simply has no access for a hose to connect to the bidet.
  - matt_heimer 7y ago
    How do you turn off the water supply to the toilet? Is that part non-existent or inside the wall? Because that is where you normally install the splitter.
    - neuronic 7y ago
      It's diagonally across the room (~3m).
  - mmsimanga 7y ago
    I have seen this design mainly in public toilets and in a few "modern" homes. Makes for easier to clean toilet area. But I also had similar questions as sibling comments are making. As someone who has had to fix my fair share of flushing issues I had my doubts about such a design.
    - Symbiote 7y ago
      I have this type of toilet, in a very modern apartment. It's exactly as you say, more common in modern public places like airports and new offices. In my case, there's a 2m wide, ~70cm deep space behind the bathroom, where the water + heating + sewage + ventilation pipes for the whole building are located. There's a 40cm access panel in my wall to get to it. Adding a bidet thing would require drilling a hole through the wall. A previous apartment had a similar toilet, but the tank etc was just hidden behind wooden panelling. That would be much easier to modify. [1] https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fFAAAOSwnhNdyM2F/s-l1600.jpg https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fFAAAOSwnhNdyM2F/s-l1600.jpg
LyndsySimon 7y ago
I had to run a new electrical outlet for mine; plumbing a new line for it wouldn’t have been any more difficult.
- Frost1x 7y ago
  This is the one issue that's stopped me. Most these attachments connect to the toilet's water supply, which is fine, except most toilet water supplies only provide cold (i.e. whatever the ambient water temperature happens to be) water which to me, is far from ideal in a bidet (it's fine for normal use though). Running hot water there is a significant undertaking if done correctly, so most options come with a small reservoir to heat up water from the regular toilet supply. That heat isn't magical, it needs energy from somewhere meaning you need to run power there someway. There are dangerous improvised solutions like running a power cable yourself. There's additional consideration electricians put in when installing power in restrooms due to all the water and grounding dangers from metal plumbing. Running cables neglects all that thought and reintroduces an electrocution hazard if not handled very carefully. That leaves me with battery options which I haven't looked to much into but I find that's likely not ideal to swap batteries around all the time. If it can operate off something like a deep cycle marine battery (which seems appropriate), then it might be viable.
  - polynomial 7y ago
    How has no one else pointed this out!
  - bryanlarsen 7y ago
    Most bathrooms have a light switch close to the toilet. Replace it with something like https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Decora-15-Amp-Tamper-Resistant-Combo-Switch-and-Outlet-White-R62-T5625-0WS/202027001 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Decora-15-Amp-Tamper-Res.... The Toto bidet's have a fairly long cord.
    - mindslight 7y ago
      Do NOT use that particular outlet. You want one with GFCI instead. You will probably have to install a larger box to put it side by side with the existing switch. (Or really just install another single box closer to where you want it, and fish)

floren 7y ago

Doesn't the bidet take its water supply from the toilet's own valve? That's how I'd do it, just add a tap to the outlet of the valve (https://i.imgur.com/Or7mhpW.png https://i.imgur.com/Or7mhpW.png). No need to turn off your home water supply to install it, either.

neuronic 7y ago
I edited a second after you submitted. No, everything is built into the wall. You have to destroy it to get to the pipes. Not even a "door" or some tile to open. It's all sealed away.
- jhart99 7y ago
  There is no pipe or hose that connects to your toilet with a valve? The one I have can attach either at the valve or at the tank where the water enters the toilet.
  - neuronic 7y ago
    Tank is inside a wall, sealed and no access. May you can take off the button panel but a hose wouldn't be able to go through there. All of the piping is in the wall and there is one faucet across the room.
- derekp7 7y ago
  So how do you work on the toilet (as in, replace the flap or fill valve) without access to a water shutoff?
  - neuronic 7y ago
    The answer is you don't. I know people think I am missing something but I really don't. I have fixed toilets in other long term apartments before. This one simply has no access for a hose to connect to the bidet.
- matt_heimer 7y ago
  How do you turn off the water supply to the toilet? Is that part non-existent or inside the wall? Because that is where you normally install the splitter.
  - neuronic 7y ago
    It's diagonally across the room (~3m).
- mmsimanga 7y ago
  I have seen this design mainly in public toilets and in a few "modern" homes. Makes for easier to clean toilet area. But I also had similar questions as sibling comments are making. As someone who has had to fix my fair share of flushing issues I had my doubts about such a design.
  - Symbiote 7y ago
    I have this type of toilet, in a very modern apartment. It's exactly as you say, more common in modern public places like airports and new offices. In my case, there's a 2m wide, ~70cm deep space behind the bathroom, where the water + heating + sewage + ventilation pipes for the whole building are located. There's a 40cm access panel in my wall to get to it. Adding a bidet thing would require drilling a hole through the wall. A previous apartment had a similar toilet, but the tank etc was just hidden behind wooden panelling. That would be much easier to modify. [1] https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fFAAAOSwnhNdyM2F/s-l1600.jpg https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/fFAAAOSwnhNdyM2F/s-l1600.jpg

LyndsySimon 7y ago

I had to run a new electrical outlet for mine; plumbing a new line for it wouldn’t have been any more difficult.

Frost1x 7y ago
This is the one issue that's stopped me. Most these attachments connect to the toilet's water supply, which is fine, except most toilet water supplies only provide cold (i.e. whatever the ambient water temperature happens to be) water which to me, is far from ideal in a bidet (it's fine for normal use though). Running hot water there is a significant undertaking if done correctly, so most options come with a small reservoir to heat up water from the regular toilet supply. That heat isn't magical, it needs energy from somewhere meaning you need to run power there someway. There are dangerous improvised solutions like running a power cable yourself. There's additional consideration electricians put in when installing power in restrooms due to all the water and grounding dangers from metal plumbing. Running cables neglects all that thought and reintroduces an electrocution hazard if not handled very carefully. That leaves me with battery options which I haven't looked to much into but I find that's likely not ideal to swap batteries around all the time. If it can operate off something like a deep cycle marine battery (which seems appropriate), then it might be viable.
- polynomial 7y ago
  How has no one else pointed this out!
- bryanlarsen 7y ago
  Most bathrooms have a light switch close to the toilet. Replace it with something like https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Decora-15-Amp-Tamper-Resistant-Combo-Switch-and-Outlet-White-R62-T5625-0WS/202027001 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-Decora-15-Amp-Tamper-Res.... The Toto bidet's have a fairly long cord.
  - mindslight 7y ago
    Do NOT use that particular outlet. You want one with GFCI instead. You will probably have to install a larger box to put it side by side with the existing switch. (Or really just install another single box closer to where you want it, and fish)