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> the new inverted-“T” arrangement for the arrow keys makes them easier to find without looking down Heh, leave it to Apple to congratulate themselves for goin
by Ndymium 7y ago
> the new inverted-“T” arrangement for the arrow keys makes them easier to find without looking down
Heh, leave it to Apple to congratulate themselves for going back to a design that they already had earlier and that everyone else uses.
- dexterdog 7y agoIt's like moving the headphone jack (when they had one) from the bottom to the top and back.
- frosted-flakes 7y agoThe Macbook Air doesn't have a headphone jack? Wow.
- devmunchies 7y agoYes it does. Op was talking about the phone.
- tachion 7y agoIt does. He was talking about iPhone headphone jack port placement journey.
- dangus 7y agoThey were talking. You don't know their gender nor should you assume it to be male.
- coldtea 7y agoDid anybody ask for an opinion on that? At worse the parent misattributed a pronoun which can be fixed with a clarification from the grandparent ("actually it's a she" etc). At best he's correct, as it's more likely statistically given the demographics here.
- pbiggar 7y ago> Did anybody ask for an opinion on that? Don't be an asshole. Parent misattributed the pronoun, sure. And then they were asked to not do that.
- coldtea 7y ago>Don't be an asshole. Oh, the irony! >Parent misattributed the pronoun, sure. And then they were asked to not do that Not sure at all that they misattributed anything. And they weren't asked. They were lectured "on principle". And not even by the supposedly offended person, but from a third party that had nothing topical to contribute to their discussion.
- pbiggar 7y agoImagine for a second that you were constantly being assumed to be an incorrect gender. And let's further assume that it bothered you. Would you want to spend all your time telling people to not assume your gender (and consider the high possibility that they're going to get a reaction like this)? No, you're not. And so every dude on this thing is going to use "he" everywhere cause "no-one's complaining". And then when people who prefer different gender pronouns come in, they're going to see people being assholes about gender pronouns, and they're going to say "fuck this" and leave (note, they're not going to reply either, cause they also are sick of it). And so to prevent that, people other than the "supposedly offended person" need to step in, even if they weren't asked. I'm not going to reply to further discussion here. I hope this was useful to you.
- SamReidHughes 7y agoIf it bothers you, you can choose not to be bothered by it.
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- frosted-flakes 7y agoOh, I see. I thought that was news I missed or something.
- saagarjha 7y agoIt does.
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- ulisesrmzroche 7y agoWow what? I don’t get it. You really want wires? Why? Just because? Nostalgia? What’s the deal? It’s not sound quality, that’s for sure.
- gambiting 7y agoNo, as a customer, I want CHOICE. People act as if having a headphone jack vs using bluetooth headphones are completely mutually exclusive things. I sometimes find downright aggression towards people who still want to keep a headphone jack. A laptop is a general computing device - maybe I'll want to plug in my fully working wired headphones, maybe I'll want to use bluetooth ones. Who knows. But I hate it when companies take this choice away from me, because "progress" or some other nonsense. And then you go online and people say that you must be weird for wanting to keep the jack around - why? What's bothering you so much about having an extra port that you can but don't have to use?
- ulisesrmzroche 7y agoOk, misguided idealism. Sure, same old, same old.
- luigibosco 7y agoFrom a strictly cost/business perspective it's brilliant. Remove hardware you have to pay for embedded in your device and sell people an adapter at an increased price.
- allarm 7y agoBecause I forgot to charge my wireless and I have a meeting in 2 minutes.
- radisb 7y agoThen you dont deserve Apple.
- layoutIfNeeded 7y agoMusic production. Bluetooth has unfixable crap latency.
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- ceejayoz 7y agoI'd love a glimpse inside the room when they write that sort of copy. Are they all super serious about it? Or laughing their asses off?
- q3k 7y agoExtrapolating from the cult-like following of Apple products: there's no way they don't fully believe this themselves.
- wlesieutre 7y agoThey're admitting they were wrong about the last keyboard design, but do you expect a product announcement to come out and say "Our last four years of computers have had pretty shit keyboards, but we finally unfucked it!"
- 45ure 7y agoThe novelty must have worn off, a long time ago. Almost all announcements of updates to existing products, look like a copypasta, they probably have templates and a well-oiled PR machinery to follow through.
- leetcrew 7y agoreminds me of my favorite post in response to the latest macbook pro keyboard (can't remember if I saw it here or on reddit). > When we changed the key travel from 1.0mm to 0.5mm, it was so much better that it became the best keyboard in the world. And now, with the change from 0.5mm to 1.0mm, we’ve made it even better than ever: Welcome to the world’s best typing experience.
- runawaybottle 7y agoBullshit has no bounds in this worid.
- fallat 7y agoThis is almost literally straight of out 1984. I actually can't believe they wrote that.
- ricketycricket 7y agoApple didn’t, if that is what you mean.
- singlow 7y agoThey didn't - it's a parody.
- JdeBP 7y agoYou saw it at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21523873 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21523873 , no doubt. (-:
- leetcrew 7y agoty for tracking down the source. truly a great comment.
- crazygringo 7y agoLet's just be happy they eventually fix their mistakes. :) Obviously the marketing copy is going to put positive spin however they can. That's what marketing is, and what mostly any other company would write as well. I'm just grateful!
- olejorgenb 7y agoMost other laptop keyboards crams a pgup/pgdown key around the up key though. I often rest one of the fingers in that space making the laptop arrowkeys a bit annoying to use.
- wongarsu 7y agoDell leaves that space free (like this new MacBook Air) and instead has pgup/down, Pos1/End as secondary functions on the Fn-(Up/Down/Left/Right) key combos. I really like how that puts all navigation keys in one place.
- yndoendo 7y agoI have used Acer, Dell, HP, and Lenovo. Lenovo swaps the FN and CTRL compared to everyone else, cannot stand that keyboard as it messing with muscle memory. After moving from a Dell XPS-13 to a HP Envy 13, HP has the best keyboard experience on a laptop. Having the PU, PD, END, HOME as a separate column on the right makes life grand, no FN + action needed to use some of the most useful keys when reading or viewing content.
- rurp 7y agoI read that post from my 2012 MacBook and did a double take a that part. I glanced down at my 8 year old Apple keyboard and, sure enough, it has the exact same layout.
- roymurdock 7y agoMid 2012 MBP with swapped out internals...8 years later and still the best computer I've ever owned
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- JdeBP 7y agoDid Apple marketing do that for the Escape key, too?