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Except, it IS a night club. The Web is not what it used to be decades ago. There is no elusive concept as "The Web", it's now just a different way for people to
by cocktailpeanuts 7y ago
Except, it IS a night club. The Web is not what it used to be decades ago. There is no elusive concept as "The Web", it's now just a different way for people to connect, just like going to a nightclub. It's been like that ever since the majority of the world got on it.
You say "it's a place for people to put their content out on the internet", but you don't ask WHY they would do that. And I don't know if you have used TikTok at all, but if you ask anyone who "put their content out on" TikTok, they would agree TikTok is like a giant nightclub.
- zapzupnz 7y agoWhat kind of night clubs do you go to where there's a high bar of entry — but everybody is still allowed in anyway? It's more like a strip club, where the beautiful people are unpaid strippers who don't even know that they are strippers. And even that's a poor metaphor.
- jussij 7y agoThe way I read the OP's analogy is just as the Night Club places restrictions on who can enter, TikTok is also placing restrictions on who can post content. And why I think the analogy does have some merit, is because the metric used to decide on who gets restricted is the very similar in both of these cases.
- zapzupnz 7y agoThey don’t limit who can post content but rather whose content reaches the suggestions, regardless of a post’s popularity. Also, again, the people turned away from the night club door still can’t go in. Took Too users who don’t post can still view content.
- jussij 7y agoAll of that may well be true. However, if this article is correct, they also seem to favour good looking TikTok users, which is not unlike Night Clubs who also like to favour good looking patrons.
- Drew_ 7y agoIf the posted content is never shown to anyone then this is the same as not allowing the post.
- zapzupnz 7y agoTikTok is like Twitter in that you can follow people. Something not trending on Twitter isn't the same as not existing or not showing to one's followers. Likewise, something not becoming a suggested TikTok isn't the same as not allowing the post wholesale.
- aabbcc1241 7y agoif you can convince your peers to surf your profile, your content is still accessible I suppose
- fiblye 7y agoOh, no, plenty of people who are confident that they're beautiful are getting paid these days. Plenty of them stripping for it. Spend just a little time on Twitter/Instagram/Tiktok or click on any given Patreon link and you're likely to come across new age digital strippers. If anybody is unpaid and making popular content these days, they're very unaware.
- kevin_thibedeau 7y agoThe web was never a commons. It all rests on accessing content hosted by privately owned platforms. The commons is SMTP, SNTP, and IRC. Digital natives don't care about these because they aren't shiny and expect that the free stuff they've been given all their life is an inalienable right.
- swiley 7y agoApple has intentionally killed chat apps other than email and centralized stuff by not allowing self hosted push servers. Don’t blame this on young people, IRC was becoming popular again right around when the iPhone started to become necessary for everything.
- dmix 7y agoRights don't involve being given "free stuff", they exist to prevents it from being taken away. Which is a super popular misconception (or at least misuse) all on its own.
- kevin_thibedeau 7y agoNobody has a right to someone else's property.
- paulddraper 7y agoPositive vs negative rights [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_and_positive_rights
- swiley 7y agoThe web is still there, you can still dump some HTML in IIS on your crappy windows laptop from bestbuy and plug it into your router and have it show up on google (not that that’s a good idea.) Heck you can dump your html files on github pages with the same effect, you don’t even need to know git. The web is still the web, most people still don’t bother using it.
- zadokshi 7y agoGetting a domain on google is not as easy as it used to be. If your domain has few inbound links don’t expect to appear on google at all, no matter how unique your search keywords may be.
- NikolaeVarius 7y agoI run a extremely small website and I have never had an issue with being found on google. This is with questions to visitors as to how they found us, and google is a consistent answer. Do you also have anecdotal evidence supporting your claim that google does not host niche content?
- swiley 7y agoYeah my personal website is on google and I don’t put any effort into making it searchable. If I actually had interesting things on there it would probably be on the front page for a few related keywords.