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So you're saying Amazon has a toxic work culture? What a surprise

by Kunigaikstis 7y ago

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BurningFrog 7y ago
Or Amazon has an important role in the new Virus Economy, and is stepping up to do its part.
- z3ncyberpunk 7y ago
  Once again at the expense of the worker.
  - btmiller 7y ago
    And what exactly is the alternative in this very specific example?
  - burnte 7y ago
    Yes, the time-and-a-half overtime paid worker.
  - nkassis 7y ago
    What's worse, stores having mass of people going in and out or a restricted set of workers they can try to keep apart? Right now, yes those workers are at greater danger than not working (and maybe they deserve extra pay here) but I would argue that for the public good Amazon better than in person stores at the moment.
  - jeherr 7y ago
    People ordering off of Amazon prevents them from having to go to brick and mortar stores where they could also spread or catch the virus. This includes the elderly who are in the highest risk groups for the disease. Most if not all Amazon warehouse workers are significantly less likely to be in high risk groups, meaning they are much more likely to have milder symptoms if they do catch it. Sure it sucks for those who work for Amazon, ideally they should be given a choice, but people are not going to stop buying things if Amazon is way behind and orders are looking at a week or two shipment time. They'll go out in public to stores full of other people. This seems like the lesser evil of two bad options to me.
  - throw_m239339 7y ago
    I mean, you are on where you are, Most people here are all about "entrepreneurship", adore Bezos, Kalanick, Musk, "disruption", despise unions by a large majority, believe in "the right to work" and care very little about menial worker conditions and class warfare. You'd be on another sort of forum you'd hear a very different tune. So it is to be expected. Be smart bind your time and then s*bvert.
- robodale 7y ago
  Wow, the "Virus Economy". Is that the term emerging now? It's still sinking in with me...that this is our new reality.
commandlinefan 7y ago
It looks like they are paying for the extra hours, at least.
natalyarostova 7y ago
(Disclaimer: I work at Amazon). We have a world class supply-chain. This is a moment when the US, and the world, 100% must have a functioning supply chain. I'm proud of the work we're doing to keep things running under unusual stress.
- misiti3780 7y ago
  as you should be.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
  I don't work at Amazon, but I'm incredibly grateful for its existence right now and the work it is doing. I can't help but think that almost everyone in the American populace feels likewise, except some politically motivated grousing from certain groups.
  - jschwartzi 7y ago
    Yeah I'd be the first guy to take a crap on Amazon, but you're right about this. We need a functioning supply chain or we'll have civil unrest soon and having a company taking care of that at a time when nearly everything else is closing is good. I also really appreciate the few stories of them cracking down on profiteers since resource scarcity is a big part of why people feel stressed out right now.
- OJFord 7y ago
  Claimer* , or disclosure*. But other than that, agreed, good job; I saw earlier about not restocking non-essentials, to focus on higher demand for less discretionary items, that's bound to cause some frustration, but it's good to see - since those are presumably the less profitable lines too. Also in excellent Corporate Social Responsibility this week is LVMH, reconfiguring perfume production lines to produce hand sanitiser for France, for free. Beats 'Hey Italy, have a free trial of our SaaS product' [0] hands down. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22535402 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22535402
- kuraudoOishii 7y ago
ekianjo 7y ago
So you are expecting to go thru a crisis and things to run by themselves? Essential parts of supply chain and healthcare are working overtime for the sake of us all.

So you're saying Amazon has a toxic work culture? What a surprise

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BurningFrog 7y ago

Or Amazon has an important role in the new Virus Economy, and is stepping up to do its part.

z3ncyberpunk 7y ago
Once again at the expense of the worker.
- btmiller 7y ago
  And what exactly is the alternative in this very specific example?
- burnte 7y ago
  Yes, the time-and-a-half overtime paid worker.
- nkassis 7y ago
  What's worse, stores having mass of people going in and out or a restricted set of workers they can try to keep apart? Right now, yes those workers are at greater danger than not working (and maybe they deserve extra pay here) but I would argue that for the public good Amazon better than in person stores at the moment.
- jeherr 7y ago
  People ordering off of Amazon prevents them from having to go to brick and mortar stores where they could also spread or catch the virus. This includes the elderly who are in the highest risk groups for the disease. Most if not all Amazon warehouse workers are significantly less likely to be in high risk groups, meaning they are much more likely to have milder symptoms if they do catch it. Sure it sucks for those who work for Amazon, ideally they should be given a choice, but people are not going to stop buying things if Amazon is way behind and orders are looking at a week or two shipment time. They'll go out in public to stores full of other people. This seems like the lesser evil of two bad options to me.
- throw_m239339 7y ago
  I mean, you are on where you are, Most people here are all about "entrepreneurship", adore Bezos, Kalanick, Musk, "disruption", despise unions by a large majority, believe in "the right to work" and care very little about menial worker conditions and class warfare. You'd be on another sort of forum you'd hear a very different tune. So it is to be expected. Be smart bind your time and then s*bvert.
robodale 7y ago
Wow, the "Virus Economy". Is that the term emerging now? It's still sinking in with me...that this is our new reality.

commandlinefan 7y ago

It looks like they are paying for the extra hours, at least.

natalyarostova 7y ago

(Disclaimer: I work at Amazon). We have a world class supply-chain. This is a moment when the US, and the world, 100% must have a functioning supply chain. I'm proud of the work we're doing to keep things running under unusual stress.

misiti3780 7y ago
as you should be.
asdfasgasdgasdg 7y ago
I don't work at Amazon, but I'm incredibly grateful for its existence right now and the work it is doing. I can't help but think that almost everyone in the American populace feels likewise, except some politically motivated grousing from certain groups.
- jschwartzi 7y ago
  Yeah I'd be the first guy to take a crap on Amazon, but you're right about this. We need a functioning supply chain or we'll have civil unrest soon and having a company taking care of that at a time when nearly everything else is closing is good. I also really appreciate the few stories of them cracking down on profiteers since resource scarcity is a big part of why people feel stressed out right now.
OJFord 7y ago
Claimer* , or disclosure*. But other than that, agreed, good job; I saw earlier about not restocking non-essentials, to focus on higher demand for less discretionary items, that's bound to cause some frustration, but it's good to see - since those are presumably the less profitable lines too. Also in excellent Corporate Social Responsibility this week is LVMH, reconfiguring perfume production lines to produce hand sanitiser for France, for free. Beats 'Hey Italy, have a free trial of our SaaS product' [0] hands down. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22535402 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22535402
kuraudoOishii 7y ago

ekianjo 7y ago

So you are expecting to go thru a crisis and things to run by themselves? Essential parts of supply chain and healthcare are working overtime for the sake of us all.