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If it's not on Netflix or any streaming provider, I have no choice but to pirate it. Plain and simple. Most media content is still outside the main providers.

iwasakabukiman 7y ago
That’s absolutely false. You have the choice not to watch it instead of stealing it.
- tadzik_ 7y ago
  How is that anywhere close to stealing? The only person who loses anything in this situation is the person that chose not to pirate the content that was not available to them.
  - iwasakabukiman 7y ago
    I'm tired of arguing over semantics with people. Call it copyright infringement then. Either way, it is generally illegal. Just pay the $3 to rent the movie.
    - tadzik_ 7y ago
      The original comment is about content not available to "rent". How are you supposed to pay the $3 then? Doing that through a VPN would also violate the ToS (or: be generally illegal).
olah_1 7y ago
Pro-tip: You can now digitally rent basically every movie from Youtube or Amazon. Services like https://www.justwatch.com/ https://www.justwatch.com/ make it easy to not break the law. I used to use Popcorn time all the time, but honestly it kinda feels good to not steal /shrug
- sakarisson 7y ago
  I don't have an ethical problem with illegally pirating content either, but it does grind my gears when people make that kind argument. Nothing is forcing anyone to illegally download Westworld. Digital content isn't essential for your well-being, so I find always find it very odd when people try to justify stealing it.
  - Mediterraneo10 7y ago
    > Digital content isn't essential for your well-being It is essential for one's erudition, which historically has been considered important for an informed citizenry that knows the good and the beautiful. Take the mid-20th century canon of films, works by directors like Ozu, Kurosawa, Godard, Truffaut, Antonioni, etc. These are recognized as classics of film art and part of our general cultural heritage now. However, due to changes in legislation in the years since they were made, they are still under copyright, and so a person would have to spend thousands of dollars to legally obtain a cultural education that, in this day and age, ought to be available to anyone regardless of their means. A person pirating such films is not necessarily doing it for daft entertainment (because often these classics are not particularly fun and entertaining), but simply to learn and be familiar with the canon. And before you say that one can turn to the library instead of torrenting: many countries around the world never had well-stocked libraries to begin with. In fact, in some of these same countries it can be less than straightforward to purchase the content even if one has the money to spend.
- andybak 7y ago
  > basically every movie I find a good 10-20% of things unavailable across Netflix + all non-subscription services.
- fernandotakai 7y ago
  depends on where you live. i can't rent any movies on amazon and while youtube offers some movies, they are either subtitled in my native language (which i don't like, i prefer english subtitles) or they are dubbed (which is even worse).
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iwasakabukiman 7y ago

That’s absolutely false. You have the choice not to watch it instead of stealing it.

tadzik_ 7y ago
How is that anywhere close to stealing? The only person who loses anything in this situation is the person that chose not to pirate the content that was not available to them.
- iwasakabukiman 7y ago
  I'm tired of arguing over semantics with people. Call it copyright infringement then. Either way, it is generally illegal. Just pay the $3 to rent the movie.
  - tadzik_ 7y ago
    The original comment is about content not available to "rent". How are you supposed to pay the $3 then? Doing that through a VPN would also violate the ToS (or: be generally illegal).

olah_1 7y ago

Pro-tip: You can now digitally rent basically every movie from Youtube or Amazon. Services like https://www.justwatch.com/ https://www.justwatch.com/ make it easy to not break the law. I used to use Popcorn time all the time, but honestly it kinda feels good to not steal /shrug

sakarisson 7y ago
I don't have an ethical problem with illegally pirating content either, but it does grind my gears when people make that kind argument. Nothing is forcing anyone to illegally download Westworld. Digital content isn't essential for your well-being, so I find always find it very odd when people try to justify stealing it.
- Mediterraneo10 7y ago
  > Digital content isn't essential for your well-being It is essential for one's erudition, which historically has been considered important for an informed citizenry that knows the good and the beautiful. Take the mid-20th century canon of films, works by directors like Ozu, Kurosawa, Godard, Truffaut, Antonioni, etc. These are recognized as classics of film art and part of our general cultural heritage now. However, due to changes in legislation in the years since they were made, they are still under copyright, and so a person would have to spend thousands of dollars to legally obtain a cultural education that, in this day and age, ought to be available to anyone regardless of their means. A person pirating such films is not necessarily doing it for daft entertainment (because often these classics are not particularly fun and entertaining), but simply to learn and be familiar with the canon. And before you say that one can turn to the library instead of torrenting: many countries around the world never had well-stocked libraries to begin with. In fact, in some of these same countries it can be less than straightforward to purchase the content even if one has the money to spend.
andybak 7y ago
> basically every movie I find a good 10-20% of things unavailable across Netflix + all non-subscription services.
fernandotakai 7y ago
depends on where you live. i can't rent any movies on amazon and while youtube offers some movies, they are either subtitled in my native language (which i don't like, i prefer english subtitles) or they are dubbed (which is even worse).
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