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> Tbf Microsoft have won back a lot of good faith with developers due to projects like VS Code and TypeScript, even for those of us who remember their past. Th

by mbesto 7y ago

> Tbf Microsoft have won back a lot of good faith with developers due to projects like VS Code and TypeScript, even for those of us who remember their past. Those are great until they're not. It's why it's called "bait and switch". > And we're yet to hear of any negative impact of their Github acquisition (afaik - correct me if wrong). ANY?! Heh, do a quick search just on HN and you'll find it pretty quickly.

michaelmior 7y ago
I did search, didn't find it quickly. Could you share some sources of the negative impact? (I'm legitimately curious as my use of GitHub hasn't led me to notice any change.)
- mbesto 7y ago
  I found two pretty damn quickly. They're 3 of the top 5 most upvoted comments on the announcement thread... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221656 > I'm legitimately curious as my use of GitHub hasn't led me to notice any change Nor I. That's not that point. For the record, I think Microsoft has done wonderfully for the dev community in the last 10 years. I don't see any reason that they are going to "f it up", but big businesses get desperate when environments change and profits get impacted (look no further than what Oracle is doing). Microsoft is not immune to that.
  - ptato 7y ago
    I believe he was asking for specific evidence of negative impact, not people worried it might have a negative impact.
  - IAmEveryone 7y ago
    The complaints are "I think it really impacts the neutrality of github" and "I hope they don't discontinue Atom or apply their UX styling to the site/desktop app", respectively. Those don't strike me as particularly specific and/or nightmarish.
  - michaelmior 7y ago
    Neither of those show negative impact but people worried about potential future negative impact.
  - abdulmuhaimin 7y ago
    concern of negative impact =/= negative impact. Great job twisting the truth. Im not gonna be surprised if you say you're a journalist.
allover 7y ago
I know what 'bait and switch' means, just like I also know what FUD means. Next you'll call them Micro$oft. Come on now.
- eyelidlessness 7y ago
  Oh this takes me back to when Internet Exploder was the most popular browser
- mbesto 7y ago
  Are you aware of what Oracle is doing to its customers right now?
  - nickflood 7y ago
    Come on, Oracle was always predatory. You always knew exactly what would happen to anything they acquire.
- DarkmSparks 7y ago
  Nothing will come from those idiots spreading fud calling it micro$oft and using npm... If it does micro$oft will just buy the world out from under them.

by mbesto 7y ago

michaelmior 7y ago

I did search, didn't find it quickly. Could you share some sources of the negative impact? (I'm legitimately curious as my use of GitHub hasn't led me to notice any change.)

mbesto 7y ago
I found two pretty damn quickly. They're 3 of the top 5 most upvoted comments on the announcement thread... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221640 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17221656 > I'm legitimately curious as my use of GitHub hasn't led me to notice any change Nor I. That's not that point. For the record, I think Microsoft has done wonderfully for the dev community in the last 10 years. I don't see any reason that they are going to "f it up", but big businesses get desperate when environments change and profits get impacted (look no further than what Oracle is doing). Microsoft is not immune to that.
- ptato 7y ago
  I believe he was asking for specific evidence of negative impact, not people worried it might have a negative impact.
- IAmEveryone 7y ago
  The complaints are "I think it really impacts the neutrality of github" and "I hope they don't discontinue Atom or apply their UX styling to the site/desktop app", respectively. Those don't strike me as particularly specific and/or nightmarish.
- michaelmior 7y ago
  Neither of those show negative impact but people worried about potential future negative impact.
- abdulmuhaimin 7y ago
  concern of negative impact =/= negative impact. Great job twisting the truth. Im not gonna be surprised if you say you're a journalist.

allover 7y ago

I know what 'bait and switch' means, just like I also know what FUD means. Next you'll call them Micro$oft. Come on now.

eyelidlessness 7y ago
Oh this takes me back to when Internet Exploder was the most popular browser
mbesto 7y ago
Are you aware of what Oracle is doing to its customers right now?
- nickflood 7y ago
  Come on, Oracle was always predatory. You always knew exactly what would happen to anything they acquire.
DarkmSparks 7y ago
Nothing will come from those idiots spreading fud calling it micro$oft and using npm... If it does micro$oft will just buy the world out from under them.