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Google will not pull out of Europe. As long as it can make a profit in Europe it will stay. There is a demand for many of the services it offers and it is well

by mongol 7y ago

Google will not pull out of Europe. As long as it can make a profit in Europe it will stay. There is a demand for many of the services it offers and it is well positioned to sell them, regardless of GDPR.

shadowgovt 7y ago
Possibly. Depends on what the cost-benefit tradeoff is. Google tends to be a long-term-thinking-oriented company, and requiring them to silo internal data (under the rules of a third-party oversight, not their own rules) strikes at their ability to do R&D. They know that in the long-term, the survival of a technical company is hinged on what they deliver in the future, not what they're delivering now.
- disgruntledphd2 7y ago
  Ok, so there are two parts of the work rich enough to support advertising companies. They are the US and Europe. It's super implausible that Google will pull out of Europe (the EU at least), because they are forced to implement the laws. It's as likely as them pulling out of the US because they are forced to refuse to deal with countries under US sanctions.
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    > They are the US and Europe ... and China. And the refusal of the ability to deal with countries under US sanctions doesn't strike at the core of Google's R&D techniques and resources.
    - disgruntledphd2 7y ago
      Sortof. Urban China, yes. Rural China no (but probably yes in 10-15 years). Nonetheless, I don't see Google (or Facebook for that matter) pulling out of Europe if they are forced to comply with (the entirely reasonable restrictions of) GDPR.
      - shadowgovt 7y ago
        Me neither. If the restrictions prove unreasonable in practice, it's a question that I'm sure those companies will revisit.
- paulryanrogers 7y ago
  > Google tends to be a long-term-thinking-oriented company, ... Is that still true? The number of products they've launched and abandoned, sometimes in the same market (like messaging), seems to indicate they're more an in-the-moment company to me.
  - shadowgovt 7y ago
    A lot of launch-abandonment churn is to be expected from an R&D-heavy institution.

by mongol 7y ago

shadowgovt 7y ago

Possibly. Depends on what the cost-benefit tradeoff is. Google tends to be a long-term-thinking-oriented company, and requiring them to silo internal data (under the rules of a third-party oversight, not their own rules) strikes at their ability to do R&D. They know that in the long-term, the survival of a technical company is hinged on what they deliver in the future, not what they're delivering now.

disgruntledphd2 7y ago
Ok, so there are two parts of the work rich enough to support advertising companies. They are the US and Europe. It's super implausible that Google will pull out of Europe (the EU at least), because they are forced to implement the laws. It's as likely as them pulling out of the US because they are forced to refuse to deal with countries under US sanctions.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  > They are the US and Europe ... and China. And the refusal of the ability to deal with countries under US sanctions doesn't strike at the core of Google's R&D techniques and resources.
  - disgruntledphd2 7y ago
    Sortof. Urban China, yes. Rural China no (but probably yes in 10-15 years). Nonetheless, I don't see Google (or Facebook for that matter) pulling out of Europe if they are forced to comply with (the entirely reasonable restrictions of) GDPR.
    - shadowgovt 7y ago
      Me neither. If the restrictions prove unreasonable in practice, it's a question that I'm sure those companies will revisit.
paulryanrogers 7y ago
> Google tends to be a long-term-thinking-oriented company, ... Is that still true? The number of products they've launched and abandoned, sometimes in the same market (like messaging), seems to indicate they're more an in-the-moment company to me.
- shadowgovt 7y ago
  A lot of launch-abandonment churn is to be expected from an R&D-heavy institution.