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There's an alternative model: that people who do nothing productive don't work at all in producing silly products and services, and they can spend their time do
by TuringTest 7y ago
There's an alternative model: that people who do nothing productive don't work at all in producing silly products and services, and they can spend their time doing things they enjoy instead.
https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/ https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/
- ALittleLight 7y agoWho would choose to spend time working though if they could do whatever they wanted instead without cost?
- jnwatson 7y agoAnybody that wants more money. You know, the same reason that folks look for promotions: more responsibility for more money.
- TheSpiceIsLife 7y agoI believe the idea is to provide financial incentives to work.
- dragonwriter 7y agoIt's not without cost, you lose the additional income you'd get from working. People making $1,000/month expend extra effort to make more than that when the effort to make $1,000/month is nonzero, so I have no problem thinking people with any kind of opportunity will do so when the effort to make $1,000/month is zero, as they will have a lot more available unexpended effort.
- ALittleLight 7y agoIn a normal situation this is true. In situation described above only the essentials are being produced by the economy and everyone gets essentials and nobody producing non-essentials works. Having more money isn't useful in this situation. You already get the essentials and can't buy non-essentials because they aren't being produced.
- TuringTest 7y agoYou assume non-essentials wouldn't be created. Instead, they could be created by people who enjoy creating them - but they would be much more influenced by what they like, not necessarily what people demand.
- yiyus 7y agoThere are many people who enjoy producing "silly products and services". Eg: many people who are left at home spending time doing what they enjoy will make beer or wine. Some of these beers and wines will be excellent, people will like them, and they will want to pay for them. I understand the motivations for what you propose, but I do not see how it would work in practice before going into full-authoritarian mode.
- the_gipsy 7y agoThere's a big difference in producing silly products, and creating silly jobs to keep people busy. I mean that with UBI you can fix the idiocy of creating real fake jobs to keep people busy, but you won't fix people wanting to buy silly things.
- scotty79 7y ago> you won't fix people wanting to buy silly things. If the supply will be lower because people won't need to manufacture them to have an excuse to not starve to death, price of silly things will go up and that does wonders to people's wants for silly things.