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This is exactly how it happened in Spain. Please guys, consider it, most media is just nonsense, people pretending to have knowledge about stuff they don't know

This is exactly how it happened in Spain. Please guys, consider it, most media is just nonsense, people pretending to have knowledge about stuff they don't know shit about. Most of you here are smart enough to know what's an exponential, logit and even run your own SIR model. You'll be in a situation where people will die by contagion of other people who isn't even aware they are infected. You might infect your loved ones. If you don't lock down now, it will be bad.

kaoD 7y ago
Spaniard here. I'm not looking forward to the >2 months I expect of lockdown but it is what it is. Why is everyone so cocky? It will happen to your country too, just like it happened to us other countries.
- inferiorhuman 7y ago
  Within my social circle it's not about being cocky it's about survival. Lots of them are living paycheck to paycheck. While San Francisco has moved to block evictions and the state is working to protect mortgage holders and tenants, there are other bills to pay. A degree of separation or two and then we get the anti-vaxxers and maga tards and other mentally deficient folks who think the CDC is just putting out a giant hoax. Edit: And if you look around HN you'll see plenty of horrific medical and dietary advice in general and so SARS-COV-2 is no exception. My favorite was the one guy promoting smoking and blood pressure meds as a way to stave off a coronavirus infection. Some people you just can't help.
  - wolco 7y ago
    The people who distrust the CDC likely have been preparing for years.
joe_the_user 7y ago
This post (it's parents)! The US already moving that way in baby steps but things will certainly get there. That it isn't there already is already bad but I can't see this taking more than a few more days.
mnl 7y ago
This. I've been very very angry with the official response until last week because this is not really hard to estimate and the numbers were there already. I'm quite happy with the recent tough measures, they make sense and I expect/hope they're going to work. I don't think we have much of a choice here, it's either this or a toll that's simply unacceptable if you have the means to avoid it. And you have them: don't ignore common sense because of political choices or the excitement of gambling. Sometimes the obvious thing to do is the right thing to do. Don't try to be clever with this, this is a ruthless chain reaction headed to kill/maim millions, and not in the abstract way doing what needs to be done might or might not result in. I've also been getting some too scarily close fitting done (not sharing that, it'd be irresponsible, this is not my job and I'm nowhere close to being an epidemiologist). I think the number of confirmed cases in Spain is going to grow appallingly this week and morale is going to be hit hard. Tiny in comparison of what we'd get if we did nothing about it, though. I also think (and hope) it'll start getting much better after that if we're effectively quenching contagion. I hope the authorities share their models with the public in order to give them a fuller picture. That might help psychologically. At any rate, you don't have to wait for anything, you can start implementing social distancing and careful personal hygiene practices right now.

kaoD 7y ago

Spaniard here. I'm not looking forward to the >2 months I expect of lockdown but it is what it is. Why is everyone so cocky? It will happen to your country too, just like it happened to us other countries.

inferiorhuman 7y ago
Within my social circle it's not about being cocky it's about survival. Lots of them are living paycheck to paycheck. While San Francisco has moved to block evictions and the state is working to protect mortgage holders and tenants, there are other bills to pay. A degree of separation or two and then we get the anti-vaxxers and maga tards and other mentally deficient folks who think the CDC is just putting out a giant hoax. Edit: And if you look around HN you'll see plenty of horrific medical and dietary advice in general and so SARS-COV-2 is no exception. My favorite was the one guy promoting smoking and blood pressure meds as a way to stave off a coronavirus infection. Some people you just can't help.
- wolco 7y ago
  The people who distrust the CDC likely have been preparing for years.

joe_the_user 7y ago

This post (it's parents)! The US already moving that way in baby steps but things will certainly get there. That it isn't there already is already bad but I can't see this taking more than a few more days.

mnl 7y ago

This. I've been very very angry with the official response until last week because this is not really hard to estimate and the numbers were there already. I'm quite happy with the recent tough measures, they make sense and I expect/hope they're going to work. I don't think we have much of a choice here, it's either this or a toll that's simply unacceptable if you have the means to avoid it. And you have them: don't ignore common sense because of political choices or the excitement of gambling. Sometimes the obvious thing to do is the right thing to do. Don't try to be clever with this, this is a ruthless chain reaction headed to kill/maim millions, and not in the abstract way doing what needs to be done might or might not result in. I've also been getting some too scarily close fitting done (not sharing that, it'd be irresponsible, this is not my job and I'm nowhere close to being an epidemiologist). I think the number of confirmed cases in Spain is going to grow appallingly this week and morale is going to be hit hard. Tiny in comparison of what we'd get if we did nothing about it, though. I also think (and hope) it'll start getting much better after that if we're effectively quenching contagion. I hope the authorities share their models with the public in order to give them a fuller picture. That might help psychologically. At any rate, you don't have to wait for anything, you can start implementing social distancing and careful personal hygiene practices right now.