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Even that link draws a distinction between the 'classical period' (what you linked to) and 'classical music' (a much broader range and the terminology parent co

Even that link draws a distinction between the 'classical period' (what you linked to) and 'classical music' (a much broader range and the terminology parent commenter used)

fortran77 7y ago
Listen, if you want to call all Western Art music "classical" go right ahead. In fact, pop stuff like "Andrea Bocelli" and "The Piano Guys" gets lumped into "classical" too.
- nitrogen 7y ago
  Knowingly and insistently using a different jargon/vernacular from a person with whom you want to communicate isn't going to get you far.
  - FalconSensei 7y ago
    Especially considering people are already not so keen on classical music
    - greglindahl 7y ago
      As a big fan of Medieval and Renaissance music, it's always disappointing to me that almost all music sources don't split my sub-sub genre out from Classical. It's not all the same.
      - gurudubs 7y ago
        True music fans (I'm not a dj or musician) have this subgenre issue. I'm an avid electronic music fan from the early days of space music to current drum funk, drum and bass. Watching the genres evolve over time and discussing the divergence a favorite pass time of mine. Have you checked out Musicbrainz? The catalog that community is building is, from what I've seen so far, the most robust publicly available database. The 3 largest known databases are still privately owned and not available publicly
- TotempaaltJ 7y ago
  It's fine that _you_ won't stand for it, but for the general population Bach _is_ considered classical and your comment reads as if you're denying that.
- dmix 7y ago
  Sounds like a pointless hill to die on IMO, even if it is technically accurate. With language there's always plenty of context which humans are smart enough to make distinctions from. I've never understood why people selectively allow broad context for most things, except for some pet subjects. The label programmers vs developers vs engineers is a good example, when the majority of people know what you're referring to. Making the distinction insignificant far more often than not. Edit: Do you think Google really has 1700 "engineers" working on the coronavirus testing website? (probably not, that likely includes UX, designers, management, etc). Does it matter to the expected audience? (no).
  - lozenge 7y ago
    It's difficult to imagine how any team of 1,700 could work on a new website whose spec isn't even fleshed out. I read the project got 1,700 volunteer applications, not actual commitments.
nl 7y ago
Noting that the comment you are replying to has changed the link from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music), presumably because that page points out that "Classical music" includes music from the Baroque period as well as the Classical period.

Even that link draws a distinction between the 'classical period' (what you linked to) and 'classical music' (a much broader range and the terminology parent commenter used)

fortran77 7y ago

Listen, if you want to call all Western Art music "classical" go right ahead. In fact, pop stuff like "Andrea Bocelli" and "The Piano Guys" gets lumped into "classical" too.

nitrogen 7y ago
Knowingly and insistently using a different jargon/vernacular from a person with whom you want to communicate isn't going to get you far.
- FalconSensei 7y ago
  Especially considering people are already not so keen on classical music
  - greglindahl 7y ago
    As a big fan of Medieval and Renaissance music, it's always disappointing to me that almost all music sources don't split my sub-sub genre out from Classical. It's not all the same.
    - gurudubs 7y ago
      True music fans (I'm not a dj or musician) have this subgenre issue. I'm an avid electronic music fan from the early days of space music to current drum funk, drum and bass. Watching the genres evolve over time and discussing the divergence a favorite pass time of mine. Have you checked out Musicbrainz? The catalog that community is building is, from what I've seen so far, the most robust publicly available database. The 3 largest known databases are still privately owned and not available publicly
TotempaaltJ 7y ago
It's fine that _you_ won't stand for it, but for the general population Bach _is_ considered classical and your comment reads as if you're denying that.
dmix 7y ago
Sounds like a pointless hill to die on IMO, even if it is technically accurate. With language there's always plenty of context which humans are smart enough to make distinctions from. I've never understood why people selectively allow broad context for most things, except for some pet subjects. The label programmers vs developers vs engineers is a good example, when the majority of people know what you're referring to. Making the distinction insignificant far more often than not. Edit: Do you think Google really has 1700 "engineers" working on the coronavirus testing website? (probably not, that likely includes UX, designers, management, etc). Does it matter to the expected audience? (no).
- lozenge 7y ago
  It's difficult to imagine how any team of 1,700 could work on a new website whose spec isn't even fleshed out. I read the project got 1,700 volunteer applications, not actual commitments.

nl 7y ago

Noting that the comment you are replying to has changed the link from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_period_(music), presumably because that page points out that "Classical music" includes music from the Baroque period as well as the Classical period.