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> Welt am Sonntag also quoted an unidentified German government source as saying Trump was trying to secure the scientists’ work exclusively, and would do anyth

> Welt am Sonntag also quoted an unidentified German government source as saying Trump was trying to secure the scientists’ work exclusively, and would do anything to get a vaccine for the United States, “but only for the United States.” Why?

flohofwoe 7y ago
"America First". That's why :/
bcrosby95 7y ago
Politics. He would love to present this talking point among all his other ones, such as Google having 1,700 engineers working on a website.
- thomasz 7y ago
  No, that is not normal politics. It’s sociopathic and it’s self defeating.
jszymborski 7y ago
"America First" is the administrations primary guiding principle. There will be production shortages/delays. This would mean Americans would get vaccines first.
- klipt 7y ago
  We have production capacity to make flu vaccines for everyone, I don't think capacity is an issue, the issue is more a proven safe vaccine doesn't exist yet.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > "America First" is the administrations primary guiding principle. No, kleptocracy is the administatin’s primary guiding principle. “America First” is one of the main propaganda tactics they use to sell their kleptocracy to the masses, not a guiding principle.
  - jszymborski 7y ago
    I mean, potato/tomato. America First is very much framing every and all issue as zero-sum and the Trump admin as the state (in true fascist tradition). In that way, kleptocracy is "america first".
- emiliobumachar 7y ago
  Crazy thought: maybe we all should start mass-production of the top 10 most promising Covid19 vaccine, before any are proved safe and effective.
sidibe 7y ago
Trump seems very committed to the image that the USA is doing a better job than the rest of dealing with the coronavirus. He was pretty transparent about his real motives last week when his stated concern with the cruise ship was "doubling our numbers" with something that was not our fault.
- 13415 7y ago
  Although I hope I'm wrong, he might be in for a bad surprise.
tathougies 7y ago
I love how 'unidentified German government source' is now enough evidence for a rather serious accusation.
- stefan_ 7y ago
  "unidentified government source" is all it took for the New York Times to go full propaganda on invading Iraq.
- flohofwoe 7y ago
  The report has been confirmed by the German government: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/15/coronavirus-germany-tries-to-stop-us-luring-away-firm-seeking-vaccine.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/15/coronavirus-germany-tries-to...
  - spikels 7y ago
    Not exactly. Here’s the only attributed quote from the German government: > “The German government is very interested in ensuring that vaccines and active substances against the new coronavirus are also developed in Germany and Europe,” a Health Ministry spokeswoman said, confirming a quote in the newspaper. > “In this regard, the government is in intensive exchange with the company CureVac,” she added.
    - flohofwoe 7y ago
      “We confirm the report in the Welt am Sonntag.” - I don't know how much clearer it can be.
- luxpir 7y ago
  I don't think you understand how journalism works, or what's at stake for whistleblowers.
- elviejo 7y ago
  "unidentified German government source" plus: - Timeline of CEO replacement just days after meeting Trump - Everything we know about Trump administration and their "america first" philosophy. - Everything we know about Trump himself and his xenophobia. so yeah... I would put this in the "very probably true bin"
globular-toast 7y ago
Why do you think? It's an opportunity for the US to get ahead again. The country's history is full of this kind of thing.
lordnacho 7y ago
But it's also cartoon-evil, so crazily nasty that you wonder whether it can actually be true. I mean really? He wants credit for saving America from the virus? But also to make sure nobody else gets it, even though it wouldn't stop America from getting it? It's not like you can keep a plan like that secret, either.
febeling 7y ago
I think there is a good chance this is just not true. Easy to imagine, that the tiny "exclusive" part was mixed in to make the piece more clicky.

flohofwoe 7y ago

"America First". That's why :/

bcrosby95 7y ago

Politics. He would love to present this talking point among all his other ones, such as Google having 1,700 engineers working on a website.

thomasz 7y ago
No, that is not normal politics. It’s sociopathic and it’s self defeating.

jszymborski 7y ago

"America First" is the administrations primary guiding principle. There will be production shortages/delays. This would mean Americans would get vaccines first.

klipt 7y ago
We have production capacity to make flu vaccines for everyone, I don't think capacity is an issue, the issue is more a proven safe vaccine doesn't exist yet.
dragonwriter 7y ago
> "America First" is the administrations primary guiding principle. No, kleptocracy is the administatin’s primary guiding principle. “America First” is one of the main propaganda tactics they use to sell their kleptocracy to the masses, not a guiding principle.
- jszymborski 7y ago
  I mean, potato/tomato. America First is very much framing every and all issue as zero-sum and the Trump admin as the state (in true fascist tradition). In that way, kleptocracy is "america first".
emiliobumachar 7y ago
Crazy thought: maybe we all should start mass-production of the top 10 most promising Covid19 vaccine, before any are proved safe and effective.

sidibe 7y ago

Trump seems very committed to the image that the USA is doing a better job than the rest of dealing with the coronavirus. He was pretty transparent about his real motives last week when his stated concern with the cruise ship was "doubling our numbers" with something that was not our fault.

13415 7y ago
Although I hope I'm wrong, he might be in for a bad surprise.

tathougies 7y ago

I love how 'unidentified German government source' is now enough evidence for a rather serious accusation.

stefan_ 7y ago
"unidentified government source" is all it took for the New York Times to go full propaganda on invading Iraq.
flohofwoe 7y ago
The report has been confirmed by the German government: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/15/coronavirus-germany-tries-to-stop-us-luring-away-firm-seeking-vaccine.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/15/coronavirus-germany-tries-to...
- spikels 7y ago
  Not exactly. Here’s the only attributed quote from the German government: > “The German government is very interested in ensuring that vaccines and active substances against the new coronavirus are also developed in Germany and Europe,” a Health Ministry spokeswoman said, confirming a quote in the newspaper. > “In this regard, the government is in intensive exchange with the company CureVac,” she added.
  - flohofwoe 7y ago
    “We confirm the report in the Welt am Sonntag.” - I don't know how much clearer it can be.
luxpir 7y ago
I don't think you understand how journalism works, or what's at stake for whistleblowers.
elviejo 7y ago
"unidentified German government source" plus: - Timeline of CEO replacement just days after meeting Trump - Everything we know about Trump administration and their "america first" philosophy. - Everything we know about Trump himself and his xenophobia. so yeah... I would put this in the "very probably true bin"

globular-toast 7y ago

Why do you think? It's an opportunity for the US to get ahead again. The country's history is full of this kind of thing.

lordnacho 7y ago

But it's also cartoon-evil, so crazily nasty that you wonder whether it can actually be true. I mean really? He wants credit for saving America from the virus? But also to make sure nobody else gets it, even though it wouldn't stop America from getting it? It's not like you can keep a plan like that secret, either.

febeling 7y ago

I think there is a good chance this is just not true. Easy to imagine, that the tiny "exclusive" part was mixed in to make the piece more clicky.